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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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That doesn't mean it does not have meaning.

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yea but disagreeing with him is like disagreeing with Einstein about relativity, you are also certainly wrong.

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But einstein has been challenged about relativity many times.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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By you or me? I do not think so. He has been challenged by his peers.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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That is not true, he has been challenged by many people.

Cantor is not a peer of Dieudonné?

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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Cantor did not challenge that statement. Cantor was dead at the time he made it but I heard him say it.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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Just because some great person has said something, is not a reason good enough to validate the same.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Have you ever heard of David Sklansky?

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It is a number

David Sklansky has no meaning except the one you would give to it through axioms.

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Nope, he is a person.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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I was joking. I do not know or understand anything about poker

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'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Then you know who he is. He is also a very good mathematician. He wrote an article a long time ago about this precise sort of thing. The gist was that whenever you are disagreeing with someone who is smarter than you are in the subject being debated, you are wrong more than 90% of the time. Most people feel it is much closer 60% but they are wrong.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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I do not know or believe that Jean is smarter than me.

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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You might be right but he is certainly smarter than me.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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Why do you think so?

By the way, if people did not argue with people smarter than them, then the smartness of the smart guys would not be established

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is fruitless to argue with smarter people. Of course you can do it but you are just wasting yours and their time.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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How would that person prove his smartness without arguing with less smart people?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Arguments are not the way to establish who is smarter. The same way that we learn to recognize authority is pretty close.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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1. I said that I do not think that just because someone says something is not a rational reason for accepting the proposition.

2. You immediately came up with the proposition "just because someone says something is a good reason for accepting the proposition" just because some pokre player I have never heard of has said so.

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is not what I said at all. I was saying perhaps he is right and we should listen to him.

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If that happens there will be soon a 'no progress' situation on earth

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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When you are in school does everyone argue with the teacher about everything or does he have the final say?

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I mostly argue with him when he is stupid/wrong.

This is the internet, not a school. Also, just because the administrator has the final say does not mean that he can rob something off its meaning.

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'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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We are talking about Jean not about an administrator. When two people are talking about math the chances that they both know the same amount is titanically small. If you were to ask anyone in the world whether Jean or us had more knowledge the chance that anyone in their right mind would say us is also titanically small. Therefore, it is obvious that his opinion has a much better chance of being the right one.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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He never says aleph-null has no meaning. He only wants to say that to him it has no meaning. However, that is not the same as having any meaning as stefy pointed out already

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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