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How costly is mathematica?

If I can't afford it, will I be able to do it with sage or some freeware?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Mathematica is very costly for non - students, about 1500 dollars. It is cheap for students and faculty about 129 dollars.

Sage is a powerful alternative and so is Maxima which comes with geogebra. That is what anonimnystefy used.

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Ooo

1. Is it free?

2. If 1 what is its download size?

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Okay, http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?pid=255922

Thanks for this, but why is the thread locked

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I do not know about Sage very well. gAr uses it and is something of an expert with it. It needs Linux to run well.

Maxima can be downloaded as part of geogebra, 100+ megabyte download and as a standalone. It is 33 MB and can be downloaded from here.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima/files/

The thread is locked so no one else like a spammer can post into it until I am done posting.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I must say that I like the standalone version much better.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It has more features too.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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That is why I like it more.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is very convenient to have it residing right next to geogebra. When they finally get them working together it will be awesome.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hey, does plotting in GG version of Maxima work?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What is the name of the command?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I think it's something like wx_plot2d().

The name itself (actually, the wx part) suggests to me that it is meant for wxMaxima only.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not think plot is working in that geogebra. They want you to use geogebra for all your plotting needs,.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes, but it would be interesting if you could enter a plotting command and get it plotted in GeoGebra!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The two do not yet play well together.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So, for now, there is no point in using the built-in Maxima and not the standalone?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I think the standalone is probably a better idea at this point.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Great.

And, either way, I currently have both, so either is an option.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You have to use the one that fits you best.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I know. That is what I am doing. But, I would love to see a better cooperation of the two software. When do you think they will start putting a little more effort into it?

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They are currently making it a good 3D package also. Since William Schelter died their hasn't been that much improvements in Maxima.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It would be great to have it better at 3D.

Who is the William guy?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is the creator of Maxima. That guy was superhuman to have done that by himself.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I am very thankful to him.

I think I will ask you a question about the cos(x)+x^2 problem some time in the next few days, if I don't forget.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Me and my brother when we were at our height attempted to write our own. He got further than the two of us put together.

Therein lie dragons!

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