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#2276 2013-03-03 15:47:26

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Re: What do you think?

How costly is mathematica?

If I can't afford it, will I be able to do it with sage or some freeware?


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#2277 2013-03-03 15:52:56

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;

Mathematica is very costly for non - students, about 1500 dollars. It is cheap for students and faculty about 129 dollars.

Sage is a powerful alternative and so is Maxima which comes with geogebra. That is what anonimnystefy used.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2278 2013-03-03 15:59:55

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Re: What do you think?

Ooo
1. Is it free?
2. If 1 what is its download size?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#2279 2013-03-03 16:05:17

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Okay, http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?pid=255922
Thanks for this, but why is the thread locked


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda
 

#2280 2013-03-03 16:05:59

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Re: What do you think?

I do not know about Sage very well. gAr uses it and is something of an expert with it. It needs Linux to run well.

Maxima can be downloaded as part of geogebra, 100+ megabyte download and as a standalone. It is 33 MB and can be downloaded from here.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima/files/

The thread is locked so no one else like a spammer can post into it until I am done posting.

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2281 2013-03-03 21:32:43

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Re: What do you think?

I must say that I like the standalone version much better.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2282 2013-03-03 21:39:17

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Re: What do you think?

It has more features too.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2283 2013-03-03 21:41:12

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That is why I like it more.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2284 2013-03-03 21:45:41

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It is very convenient to have it residing right next to geogebra. When they finally get them working together it will be awesome.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2285 2013-03-03 21:53:17

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Hey, does plotting in GG version of Maxima work?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2286 2013-03-03 21:58:19

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What is the name of the command?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2287 2013-03-03 22:04:05

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I think it's something like wx_plot2d().

The name itself (actually, the wx part) suggests to me that it is meant for wxMaxima only.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2288 2013-03-03 22:08:01

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I do not think plot is working in that geogebra. They want you to use geogebra for all your plotting needs,.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2289 2013-03-03 22:09:14

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Yes, but it would be interesting if you could enter a plotting command and get it plotted in GeoGebra!


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2290 2013-03-03 22:10:52

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The two do not yet play well together.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2291 2013-03-03 22:12:05

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So, for now, there is no point in using the built-in Maxima and not the standalone?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2292 2013-03-03 22:13:08

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Re: What do you think?

I think the standalone is probably a better idea at this point.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2293 2013-03-03 22:20:28

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Great.

And, either way, I currently have both, so either is an option.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2294 2013-03-03 22:28:03

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Re: What do you think?

You have to use the one that fits you best.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2295 2013-03-04 10:09:13

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I know. That is what I am doing. But, I would love to see a better cooperation of the two software. When do you think they will start putting a little more effort into it?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2296 2013-03-04 10:18:59

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They are currently making it a good 3D package also. Since William Schelter died their hasn't been that much improvements in Maxima.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2297 2013-03-04 10:23:07

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It would be great to have it better at 3D.

Who is the William guy?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2298 2013-03-04 10:31:20

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That is the creator of Maxima. That guy was superhuman to have done that by himself.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2299 2013-03-04 10:35:04

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I am very thankful to him.

I think I will ask you a question about the cos(x)+x^2 problem some time in the next few days, if I don't forget.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#2300 2013-03-04 10:37:30

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Me and my brother when we were at our height attempted to write our own. He got further than the two of us put together.

Therein lie dragons!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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