Discussion about math, puzzles, games and fun.   Useful symbols: ÷ × ½ √ ∞ ≠ ≤ ≥ ≈ ⇒ ± ∈ Δ θ ∴ ∑ ∫  π  -¹ ² ³ °

You are not logged in.

## #51 2011-08-27 09:28:19

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

i do not think i know!

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #52 2011-08-27 09:33:48

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Well that I can not convince you. If you will not believe what I say, what is the point of saying?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #53 2011-08-27 15:16:57

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Hmmm, omerta! Watch out, bobbym!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #54 2011-08-27 16:40:18

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Ahhhhh! gAr understands!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #55 2011-08-27 17:10:21

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Yes!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #56 2011-08-27 17:20:53

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Hi gAr;

How are you today?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #57 2011-08-27 18:22:55

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Hi bobbym,

I'm fine.
How are you?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #58 2011-08-27 18:55:48

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Just hanging around.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #59 2011-08-27 19:28:02

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Okay.
I'm reading Dr. Z's Opinions. He tells most of my thoughts as well.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #60 2011-08-27 19:31:41

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Yes, he is certainly a strange man. Those opinions are incredibly interesting. I also watch his videos but he never makes one point that I have been waiting for!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #61 2011-08-27 19:33:14

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Hi bobbym,

Which is that?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #62 2011-08-27 19:40:26

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

There is an important extension of Sister Celine's ideas and Ramanujans too. They keep mentioning it in there books but do not tell of the latest research. I know they have made some discovery along these lines.

Some of Ramanujans ideas consisted of proving something by reducing the number of cases to a small finite number and then trying them all. He did this with a famous problem that he proves by trying just 7 cases. The four color theorem is another example of this!

Him and Herbert speak of a method of proof that would reduce every combinatoric identity to trying a small number of cases numerically! I came across just yesterday when he let some of that leak out. Probably before publication.

Imagine proving things by reducing the problem to plugging in just 5 or 6  numbers!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #63 2011-08-27 19:58:03

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Yes, that would be wonderful!
Is the idea available in his site?

I'll see you after a little break.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #64 2011-08-27 20:03:22

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Hi gAr;

No, it is not. He hints at it even in his videos. The discretists ( he is one, so am I ) do not believe in the concept of infinity, or the greek concept of proof.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #65 2011-08-27 20:48:58

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Oh, okay.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #66 2011-08-27 21:24:47

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #67 2011-08-27 22:05:08

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,479

### Re: Hooked!

Hi,

Nice videos!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

## #68 2011-08-27 22:24:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

yup.i love knots,especially celtic knots!

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #69 2012-07-27 23:55:58

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

What a fascinating thread. Where do they come from? Knots, discretists, omerta, viciousness... A literal plethora of disjoint concepts.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #70 2012-07-28 00:30:40

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

Why did you dig this one out?

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #71 2012-07-28 03:43:33

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

Hmmm. You dig out old ones everyday...
But that is not why I did it. I was looking for an answer to your question in another thread. A search led me here. So, I read it and revived it.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #72 2012-07-28 04:22:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

In this thread also llies the answer to the question of your occupation. Which I now have copied to my phone. You can delete it and it won't be lost.

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #73 2012-07-28 04:34:13

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

You asked about the card discussion with ARB, GiB, Anthony R. Brown, MathGenius...

I am leaving the thread open, I did not give my present occupation away.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online

## #74 2012-07-28 05:03:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: Harlan's World
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 16,000

### Re: Hooked!

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Offline

## #75 2012-07-28 05:04:59

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 102,824

### Re: Hooked!

I assumed it was deleted. It was a dilly of a discussion.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

Online