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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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i do not think i know!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Well that I can not convince you. If you will not believe what I say, what is the point of saying?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hmmm, omerta! Watch out, bobbym!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Ahhhhh! gAr understands!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

How are you today?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

I'm fine.

How are you?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Just hanging around.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Okay.

I'm reading Dr. Z's Opinions. He tells most of my thoughts as well.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, he is certainly a strange man. Those opinions are incredibly interesting. I also watch his videos but he never makes one point that I have been waiting for!

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Which is that?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There is an important extension of Sister Celine's ideas and Ramanujans too. They keep mentioning it in there books but do not tell of the latest research. I know they have made some discovery along these lines.

Some of Ramanujans ideas consisted of proving something by reducing the number of cases to a small finite number and then trying them all. He did this with a famous problem that he proves by trying just 7 cases. The four color theorem is another example of this!

Him and Herbert speak of a method of proof that would reduce every combinatoric identity to trying a small number of cases numerically! I came across just yesterday when he let some of that leak out. Probably before publication.

Imagine proving things by reducing the problem to plugging in just 5 or 6 numbers!

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes, that would be wonderful!

Is the idea available in his site?

I'll see you after a little break.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

No, it is not. He hints at it even in his videos. The discretists ( he is one, so am I ) do not believe in the concept of infinity, or the greek concept of proof.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Oh, okay.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi guys

here's a link:http://www.youtube.com/user/TyingItAllTogether

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

Nice videos!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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yup.i love knots,especially celtic knots!

here's another link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314c-_7lX5s

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What a fascinating thread. Where do they come from? Knots, discretists, omerta, viciousness... A literal plethora of disjoint concepts.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why did you dig this one out?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm. You dig out old ones everyday...

But that is not why I did it. I was looking for an answer to your question in another thread. A search led me here. So, I read it and revived it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Answer to which question?

In this thread also llies the answer to the question of your occupation. Which I now have copied to my phone. You can delete it and it won't be lost.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You asked about the card discussion with ARB, GiB, Anthony R. Brown, MathGenius...

I am leaving the thread open, I did not give my present occupation away.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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What did you search? Your posts about cards?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I assumed it was deleted. It was a dilly of a discussion.

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