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#1751 2012-07-24 04:53:54
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The upper bound does not prove that B is right. A solution would prove that B is partially right. Remember he said there was an easy way to get an answer and then from there he could get the smallest answer.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1752 2012-07-24 05:06:58
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Hi bobbym
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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#1753 2012-07-24 05:10:29
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Hi;
Then please phrase things correctly else we can not understand each other. An upper bound implies an interval where an answer lies between. Had you said a solution then we would understand each other.
Also that is not the solution B had in mind.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1754 2012-07-24 05:12:03
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Hi bobbym
But it is indeed a solution. And I can easily find it out and show it is true.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1755 2012-07-24 05:17:13
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It is a solution but it did not use use B's method. So it does not yet answer the question.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1756 2012-07-24 05:20:53
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It answers that B is correct about there being a solution.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1757 2012-07-24 05:36:16
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This is what B stated and now must back up:
B wrote:
you can find a solution almost by inspection and then using some simple computational moves the smallest one.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1758 2012-07-24 06:05:28
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But maybe I am not skillful enough to find the answer by inspection.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1759 2012-07-24 06:09:11
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Hmmmm. You must try harder then or leave the problem be.
Fall seven times, stand up eight!
Act as if ye had faith and faith will be given to thee.
Everything you need is already inside.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1760 2012-07-25 01:12:00
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Hi bobbym,
New Problem:
Can you find any n quickly and then the smallest one?
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
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#1761 2012-07-25 01:21:17
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Hi gAr;
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1762 2012-07-25 06:00:36
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I got it by the same method and you told me it's no good!
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1763 2012-07-25 06:14:09
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Hi;
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1764 2012-07-25 06:25:38
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Well, you always say it doesn't mattr what the method is as long as it gets the correct answer.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1765 2012-07-25 06:35:01
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Hi;
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1766 2012-07-25 06:42:53
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Hi bobbym
The method I used will probably be faster than any other except guessing it correctly immidiately.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1767 2012-07-25 06:57:47
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Nope! B's method immediately homed in on a solution that is
35043672082151596000562013646554249747173744041549971359136253210058333463455988816491699497781669818090909810065784792552487803283621288977254260041945321239269929980724446018125644184621818685445212199208623710232952316234281228342918450660581034575270942523672830093855764273660585130143502809804334564946548826542674146536076413918355980170041778938849942752438624528710922050964741340614890818328727010131583178790913574280719645905506650981922004784128865548846046491103471968279137936893651588472331232310782026899350085821939406112295530315889920873782600994067218122342372737188206790004722469852522316276749695437709165150929462121063333938945996375533495500665183936172196559211858176448010632446343204380820 times smaller than yours! It also only took 4 seconds!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1768 2012-07-25 08:12:45
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What is his method?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1769 2012-07-25 08:20:09
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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1770 2012-07-25 09:07:09
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How is that guessing?!?!
And you also used the same theorem we used.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1771 2012-07-25 15:10:42
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I never said guessing was involved. I said almost by inspection. You got 9^1004 -1 that is not the same as 9^502 - 1.
Also you never mentioned what method you used.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1772 2012-07-25 22:45:43
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It os not the same, but you got ut by the same method.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1773 2012-07-25 22:47:40
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Hmmmm? I am not following you.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#1774 2012-07-25 22:48:35
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*is *it.
You got your answer by the same method.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#1775 2012-07-25 22:50:09
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Uhhhhh, I still do not know what you are saying.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.