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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Of course not. Do you honestly think they even read those? I have emailed them many times with no affect.

Ever heard of Bondarenko?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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The tennis player?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hohohohohohoohhoosahsf! That is good one.

No the mathematician. He has a tremendous forehand.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Then no.

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Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmmm. He is the fly in the ointment so to speak.

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**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why is that?

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Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You have heard of the wave-particle duality of light? The Tarski paradox, David Deutsch, Doron?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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All four I think.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Well, then there it is.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I do not get it.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He is to packages what they are to there fields.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Assuming Doron refers to Doron Zeilberger, wouldn't that be good?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He is hated by the math community. Ridiculed and denied tenure by lesser mathematicians.

Each one is stating there are skeletons in the closet. When people ask about them they are ridiculed.

Bondarenko who I got to know on another forum has been compiling a list of errors that packages make. It is miles long. It has caused him to be ridiculed and barred from forums.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So, is he bad or just considered bad?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I think it means that Alpha is the bad guy.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Anf what about Bondarenko? Is he good, bad or just loony?

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**noelevans****Member**- Registered: 2012-07-20
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-(1/2)*(x^4+1)^(3/2)/x^2+(1/2)*x^2*sqrt(x^4+1)+(1/2)*arcsinh(x^2)

This is maple 11's answer to the integral of [(x^4 + 1)^(1/2)]/x^3 (after a little simplification of the

integrand).

Looks like a combo of (x^4 + 1)'s 3/2 power divided by x^2, 1/2 power times x^2 and an arcsinh(x^2). So it is probably amenable to various substitution techniques but probably **several** of them. Could be quite tricky!

Writing "pretty" math (two dimensional) is easier to read and grasp than LaTex (one dimensional).

LaTex is like painting on many strips of paper and then stacking them to see what picture they make.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Anf what about Bondarenko? Is he good, bad or just loony?

I think he is a combination of all three.

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**noelevans****Member**- Registered: 2012-07-20
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Who is M? Isn't that James Bond's boss? Seriously, is M for Maple or for Maxima or for Mathematica or what?

Writing "pretty" math (two dimensional) is easier to read and grasp than LaTex (one dimensional).

LaTex is like painting on many strips of paper and then stacking them to see what picture they make.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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M here stands for Mathematica.

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**Fruityloop****Member**- Registered: 2009-05-18
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I enjoyed looking at your answer Bobbym, but I don't understand how you got

from

I'm not certain if this answer is correct, but it's the same answer from Mathematica.

*Last edited by Fruityloop (2012-07-25 18:46:54)*

The eclipses from Algol (an eclipsing binary star) come further apart in time when the Earth is moving away from Algol and closer together in time when the Earth is moving towards Algol, thereby proving that the speed of light is variable and that Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity is wrong.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Fruityloop;

That is because there is supposed to be a du in the numerator. Fixed the original post. Tried something new with the latexing and it just did not work.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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What'd you try?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maple. If only Bondie was around to see what it did.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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No, I meant, what did you try with LaTeX?

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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