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#26 2012-07-24 08:22:03
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Of course not. Do you honestly think they even read those? I have emailed them many times with no affect.
Ever heard of Bondarenko?
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#27 2012-07-24 08:57:49
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The tennis player?
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#28 2012-07-24 09:23:38
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Hohohohohohoohhoosahsf! That is good one.
No the mathematician. He has a tremendous forehand.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#29 2012-07-24 09:32:23
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Then no.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#30 2012-07-24 10:20:47
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Hmmmm. He is the fly in the ointment so to speak.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#31 2012-07-24 10:24:28
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Why is that?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#32 2012-07-24 10:29:43
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You have heard of the wave-particle duality of light? The Tarski paradox, David Deutsch, Doron?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#33 2012-07-24 10:44:17
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All four I think.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#34 2012-07-24 10:50:38
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Well, then there it is.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#35 2012-07-24 11:47:18
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I do not get it.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#36 2012-07-24 12:12:17
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He is to packages what they are to there fields.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#37 2012-07-24 12:21:58
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Assuming Doron refers to Doron Zeilberger, wouldn't that be good?
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#38 2012-07-24 12:59:18
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He is hated by the math community. Ridiculed and denied tenure by lesser mathematicians.
Each one is stating there are skeletons in the closet. When people ask about them they are ridiculed.
Bondarenko who I got to know on another forum has been compiling a list of errors that packages make. It is miles long. It has caused him to be ridiculed and barred from forums.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#39 2012-07-24 19:20:33
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So, is he bad or just considered bad?
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#40 2012-07-24 20:46:26
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I think it means that Alpha is the bad guy.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#41 2012-07-24 21:12:40
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Anf what about Bondarenko? Is he good, bad or just loony?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#42 2012-07-24 23:48:55
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-(1/2)*(x^4+1)^(3/2)/x^2+(1/2)*x^2*sqrt(x^4+1)+(1/2)*arcsinh(x^2)
This is maple 11's answer to the integral of [(x^4 + 1)^(1/2)]/x^3 (after a little simplification of the
integrand).
Looks like a combo of (x^4 + 1)'s 3/2 power divided by x^2, 1/2 power times x^2 and an arcsinh(x^2). So it is probably amenable to various substitution techniques but probably several of them. Could be quite tricky! 
Writing "pretty" math (two dimensional) is easier to read and grasp than LaTex (one dimensional).
LaTex is like painting on many strips of paper and then stacking them to see what picture they make.
#43 2012-07-24 23:54:52
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Hi;
Anf what about Bondarenko? Is he good, bad or just loony?
I think he is a combination of all three.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#44 2012-07-25 10:52:21
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Who is M? Isn't that James Bond's boss? Seriously, is M for Maple or for Maxima or for Mathematica or what? 
Writing "pretty" math (two dimensional) is easier to read and grasp than LaTex (one dimensional).
LaTex is like painting on many strips of paper and then stacking them to see what picture they make.
#45 2012-07-25 11:00:35
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M here stands for Mathematica.
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#46 2012-07-25 14:15:42
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I enjoyed looking at your answer Bobbym, but I don't understand how you got
from
I'm not certain if this answer is correct, but it's the same answer from Mathematica.
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#47 2012-07-25 15:18:46
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Hi Fruityloop;
That is because there is supposed to be a du in the numerator. Fixed the original post. Tried something new with the latexing and it just did not work.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#48 2012-07-25 22:46:59
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What'd you try?
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#49 2012-07-25 22:48:52
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Maple. If only Bondie was around to see what it did.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#50 2012-07-25 23:04:48
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No, I meant, what did you try with LaTeX?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón