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#101 2012-07-14 02:13:56
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Hi bobbym
I am getting 15.
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#102 2012-07-14 02:15:08
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Hi;
The correct answer is about 4.3
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#103 2012-07-14 02:21:33
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Are you talking about
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“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#104 2012-07-14 02:26:32
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Hi;
For the first the answer is 4.37
For the second the answer is 1.94
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Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#105 2012-07-14 02:38:56
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Hi bobbym
How did you get that?
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#106 2012-07-14 02:43:12
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One is the solution in the thread and the other is to gAr's problem in that thread.
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Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#107 2012-07-14 02:51:45
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What is your solution for 5 dice?
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#108 2012-07-14 02:53:13
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Which series are we going to discuss from now on?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#109 2012-07-14 02:58:12
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anonimnystefy wrote:
Are you talking about
or ?
What do you get as the answer for these two for 5 dice throws.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#110 2012-07-14 03:05:23
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Hi;
4.31 and 1.94. These are simulation answers.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#111 2012-07-14 03:08:09
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Wouldn't you expect to get a greater answer for the second one than for the first one?
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#112 2012-07-14 03:11:25
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No, the second one is pairwise the first is the whole list minus the second list. I expect the first one to be larger.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#113 2012-07-14 04:44:09
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But if you look at both pairwise, the first one can both increase and decrease, but the second one can only increase, so I would expect the second one to be greater.
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#114 2012-07-14 06:01:39
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The pairwise one can never be greater than 5. The other? Who knows!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#115 2012-07-14 06:12:49
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What about
(1,6)
(1,6)
(1,6)
(1,6)
(1,6)
The sum is 30!
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#116 2012-07-14 06:20:35
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That is why I did not want to discuss two sums. That sum does not exist so why are we talking about it?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#117 2012-07-14 06:38:12
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Which sum?
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#118 2012-07-14 06:39:25
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The pairwise sum. That one comes from the problem. It is an average value. It is <=5.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#119 2012-07-14 06:41:52
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There is no reason for it to be <=5. Only the summands are <=5.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#120 2012-07-14 06:46:40
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6 - 1 = 5. That is the biggest difference. If you add up a ton of numbers that are 5 or less their average will be 5 or less.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#121 2012-07-14 06:50:01
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But we don't take the average of the differences!
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#122 2012-07-14 06:53:02
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Yes we do. The original problem was an average. gAr and I agreed on that. The series you came up with here is something else. It has nothing to do with either problem. Why discuss it all?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#123 2012-07-14 06:57:27
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Hi bobbym
Anyway, my GF needs only slight modification to solve gAr's problem.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#124 2012-07-14 06:59:45
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Hmmm. Which problem?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#125 2012-07-14 07:11:17
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What did you get 4.31 for?
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The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón