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#376 2012-04-20 01:30:44

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Okay! Thanks.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#377 2012-04-20 02:02:06

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Hi;

I am afraid that I am unable to verify your answer. You will have to wait for gAr.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#378 2012-04-20 02:03:07

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Ok. But we are talking about my answer to #15?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#379 2012-04-20 02:08:12

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It is not your answer but the series itself.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#380 2012-04-20 02:09:30

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What is wrong whit the series?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#381 2012-04-20 02:13:37

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When x = 1 + (1 /4 ) it is not true. Also for other values too. That does not mean there is something wrong with it as you say. It just means I am not able to verify it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#382 2012-04-20 02:16:27

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How did you check?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#383 2012-04-20 02:17:23

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Numerically, which could be biting me. But that is what I am getting right now.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#384 2012-04-20 02:19:41

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Can you show me what you have done?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#385 2012-04-20 02:27:35

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For a sum of 10000 terms;

x=N[1+1/4,20];

FullSimplify[Sum[(-1)^k Binomial[2k,k]*(Cos[2k+1]x)/2^(2k),{k,0,10000}]-Cos[x/2]/Sqrt[2Cos[x]]]//N

Answer should be getting close to 0, but it does not. When I do 20000 the answer goes up instead of down!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#386 2012-04-20 02:36:08

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I got 0.0284151 and 0.029486 for those two.I will try going larger.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#387 2012-04-20 02:37:38

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As you approach infinity it should be going to 0. But it does not.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#388 2012-04-20 02:47:44

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I don't know. M is slow and it won't calculate anymore. hmm


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#389 2012-04-20 02:50:50

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Hi;

Could just be round off error. I got it to work for one value so just submit it to gAr and see if he likes it.

I am going to go shopping see you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#390 2012-04-20 02:51:39

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Ok,see you later.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#391 2012-04-21 08:53:09

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bobbym wrote:

Sometimes! The ones that you solve in a day or two are fun. But there are those that last for years. Nothing you try works, I have a number of those.

Could you tell me one of them,bobbym?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#392 2012-04-21 08:56:52

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This is the easiest one:



Evaluate the above integral to as many digits as you can. Find a good way to do so.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#393 2012-04-21 09:01:33

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What did you try?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#394 2012-04-21 09:04:53

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Everything I know of course and a few more things. I bounced it around on forums and got a lot of punk answers. Two people did show me something, one was a certain Robert MIller, the other I do not remember. Currently even with a computer and the big boy on the block, I can get only around 100 digits or so easily.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#395 2012-04-21 09:06:44

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What did they show you?

And what other problem do you have?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#396 2012-04-21 09:09:37

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Many others but most of them I cannot recall offhand any longer. I outlined 6 or 7 for gAr when we were talking about this. Oh, here is another:



What is the front digit?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#397 2012-04-21 09:11:07

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How,in the world,would you find the first diigit???

Where do you get these problems?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#398 2012-04-21 09:14:43

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There are several approaches to get the front digit.

Where do I get the problems from? You are familiar with Christian Goldbach?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#399 2012-04-21 09:19:20

anonimnystefy
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Tell me one of the easier approaches.

Who is that guy?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#400 2012-04-21 09:20:57

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Oooh,Goldbach Theorem Goldbach. Didn't know his first name was Christian.

And look at the last post on the last page,jst in case you miss it.

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The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

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