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Re: SeriesOkay! Thanks. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #377 20120420 02:02:06
Re: SeriesHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #378 20120420 02:03:07
Re: SeriesOk. But we are talking about my answer to #15? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #379 20120420 02:08:12
Re: SeriesIt is not your answer but the series itself. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #380 20120420 02:09:30
Re: SeriesWhat is wrong whit the series? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #381 20120420 02:13:37
Re: SeriesWhen x = 1 + (1 /4 ) it is not true. Also for other values too. That does not mean there is something wrong with it as you say. It just means I am not able to verify it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #382 20120420 02:16:27
Re: SeriesHow did you check? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #383 20120420 02:17:23
Re: SeriesNumerically, which could be biting me. But that is what I am getting right now. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #384 20120420 02:19:41
Re: SeriesCan you show me what you have done? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #385 20120420 02:27:35
Re: SeriesFor a sum of 10000 terms; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #386 20120420 02:36:08
Re: SeriesI got 0.0284151 and 0.029486 for those two.I will try going larger. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #387 20120420 02:37:38
Re: SeriesAs you approach infinity it should be going to 0. But it does not. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #388 20120420 02:47:44
Re: SeriesI don't know. M is slow and it won't calculate anymore. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #389 20120420 02:50:50
Re: SeriesHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #390 20120420 02:51:39
Re: SeriesOk,see you later. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #391 20120421 08:53:09
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Could you tell me one of them,bobbym? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #392 20120421 08:56:52
Re: SeriesThis is the easiest one: Evaluate the above integral to as many digits as you can. Find a good way to do so. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #393 20120421 09:01:33
Re: SeriesWhat did you try? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #394 20120421 09:04:53
Re: SeriesEverything I know of course and a few more things. I bounced it around on forums and got a lot of punk answers. Two people did show me something, one was a certain Robert MIller, the other I do not remember. Currently even with a computer and the big boy on the block, I can get only around 100 digits or so easily. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #395 20120421 09:06:44
Re: SeriesWhat did they show you? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #396 20120421 09:09:37
Re: SeriesMany others but most of them I cannot recall offhand any longer. I outlined 6 or 7 for gAr when we were talking about this. Oh, here is another: What is the front digit? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #397 20120421 09:11:07
Re: SeriesHow,in the world,would you find the first diigit??? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #398 20120421 09:14:43
Re: SeriesThere are several approaches to get the front digit. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #399 20120421 09:19:20
Re: SeriesTell me one of the easier approaches. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #400 20120421 09:20:57
Re: SeriesOooh,Goldbach Theorem Goldbach. Didn't know his first name was Christian. Last edited by anonimnystefy (20120421 09:22:24) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 