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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why do you do it then?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Me Pappy used to tell me this, "do as I say, do not do as I do."

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Oh really? You Pappy seems very wise. What 'bout your Mommy?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The funniest person that ever lived. A brilliant mathematician and chessplayer.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi bobbym,

Congratulations on your 'promotion'. I think it is an excellent move by MIF.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So your parents are/were very smart. You must have taken after them.

I'm gonna log off now and will be back in about an hour or an hour and a half.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, my parents were brilliant people but they were the seed that landed on barren rock.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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That is not true. Their seed has grown into a mighty oak.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Nope, they did not make it. I wonder how many other people in the world have not made it due to not having a chance? What a waste.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Their knowledge continues through you.You are their mighty oak.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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An oak! Maybe a little bush or hedge.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes,an oak!!!

Btw,I am really getting through with the first function which is the maker of the Identity Matrix.There is although a mistake and I don't know where.Could you check my code:

```
IdenMatrix (n, matrix):=
block( [i, j, a],
i: 1,
j: 1,
while i <= n do
(
while j <= n do
(
if i = j then
a[i, j]: 1
else
a[i, j]: 0,
i: i+1,
j: j+1
)
),
matrix:genmatrix(a, n, n)
);
```

And the output is:

```
[ 1 a a ]
[ 1, 2 1, 3 ]
[ ]
(%o13) [ a 1 a ]
[ 2, 1 2, 3 ]
[ ]
[ a a 1 ]
[ 3, 1 3, 2 ]
```

*Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-04-10 23:15:59)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Good practice to code it for yourself. But I should have mentioned

that Maxima has a built in identity function.

identity(3) yields

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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But why does it put a[i,j] whenever i<>j? I set it to 0 if i<>j.

And that function doesn't work for me.I will check '?? matrix' to see if there is a function for an identity matrix.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maxima already has a built in identity function so do not worry.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Which function is that? Identity(n) and identity(n) don't work for me,but even if there is such a function,I want to make my own.It will be better for me.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, but it is more serious that you are not getting these built in commands to work. We are trying to implement a PSLQ. If we get sidetracked we will never finish. What error message are you getting?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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There is no error message.It just puts wrong 'numbers' into the matrix.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm. Could be a bug. What does it output for identity(2)?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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identity(2) outputs 2.It doesn't make a matrix.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Please go here and let's see what works and what does not.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Same thing, I just went to the next page.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes

But that still doesn't help me find a function for making an identity matrix or fix my code.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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One thing at a time. The list of commands on that page I gave might work and they might not. Do they work for you?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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