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#76 2012-04-11 17:14:25
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Why do you do it then?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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#77 2012-04-11 17:22:58
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Me Pappy used to tell me this, "do as I say, do not do as I do."
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#78 2012-04-11 17:24:56
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Oh really? You Pappy seems very wise. What 'bout your Mommy?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#79 2012-04-11 17:27:04
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The funniest person that ever lived. A brilliant mathematician and chessplayer.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#81 2012-04-11 17:32:08
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So your parents are/were very smart. You must have taken after them.
I'm gonna log off now and will be back in about an hour or an hour and a half.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#82 2012-04-11 17:38:24
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Yes, my parents were brilliant people but they were the seed that landed on barren rock.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#83 2012-04-11 17:40:40
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That is not true. Their seed has grown into a mighty oak.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#84 2012-04-11 17:42:43
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Nope, they did not make it. I wonder how many other people in the world have not made it due to not having a chance? What a waste.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#85 2012-04-11 19:07:20
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Their knowledge continues through you.You are their mighty oak.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#86 2012-04-11 20:53:49
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An oak! Maybe a little bush or hedge.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#87 2012-04-11 21:15:41
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Yes,an oak!!!
Btw,I am really getting through with the first function which is the maker of the Identity Matrix.There is although a mistake and I don't know where.Could you check my code:
Code:
IdenMatrix (n, matrix):=
block( [i, j, a],
i: 1,
j: 1,
while i <= n do
(
while j <= n do
(
if i = j then
a[i, j]: 1
else
a[i, j]: 0,
i: i+1,
j: j+1
)
),
matrix:genmatrix(a, n, n)
);And the output is:
Code:
[ 1 a a ]
[ 1, 2 1, 3 ]
[ ]
(%o13) [ a 1 a ]
[ 2, 1 2, 3 ]
[ ]
[ a a 1 ]
[ 3, 1 3, 2 ]Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-04-11 21:15:59)
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#88 2012-04-11 21:22:00
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Hi;
Good practice to code it for yourself. But I should have mentioned
that Maxima has a built in identity function.
identity(3) yields
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#89 2012-04-11 21:25:51
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But why does it put a[i,j] whenever i<>j? I set it to 0 if i<>j.
And that function doesn't work for me.I will check '?? matrix' to see if there is a function for an identity matrix.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#90 2012-04-11 21:27:49
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Maxima already has a built in identity function so do not worry.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#91 2012-04-11 21:29:03
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Which function is that? Identity(n) and identity(n) don't work for me,but even if there is such a function,I want to make my own.It will be better for me.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#92 2012-04-11 21:36:57
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Okay, but it is more serious that you are not getting these built in commands to work. We are trying to implement a PSLQ. If we get sidetracked we will never finish. What error message are you getting?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#93 2012-04-11 21:39:13
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There is no error message.It just puts wrong 'numbers' into the matrix.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#94 2012-04-11 21:43:41
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Hmmm. Could be a bug. What does it output for identity(2)?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#95 2012-04-11 21:57:40
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identity(2) outputs 2.It doesn't make a matrix.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#96 2012-04-11 22:11:02
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Hi;
Please go here and let's see what works and what does not.
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/tuto … ro0001.htm
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#97 2012-04-11 22:14:33
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Hi bobbym
I think this link might be better for functions:
Maxima Programming Tutorial
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#98 2012-04-11 22:24:39
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Same thing, I just went to the next page.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#99 2012-04-11 22:29:50
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Yes 
But that still doesn't help me find a function for making an identity matrix or fix my code.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#100 2012-04-11 22:34:53
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One thing at a time. The list of commands on that page I gave might work and they might not. Do they work for you?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.