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Re: PSLQ and LLL?Why do you do it then? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #77 20120411 17:22:58
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Me Pappy used to tell me this, "do as I say, do not do as I do." In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #78 20120411 17:24:56
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Oh really? You Pappy seems very wise. What 'bout your Mommy? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #79 20120411 17:27:04
Re: PSLQ and LLL?The funniest person that ever lived. A brilliant mathematician and chessplayer. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #81 20120411 17:32:08
Re: PSLQ and LLL?So your parents are/were very smart. You must have taken after them. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #82 20120411 17:38:24
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Yes, my parents were brilliant people but they were the seed that landed on barren rock. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #83 20120411 17:40:40
Re: PSLQ and LLL?That is not true. Their seed has grown into a mighty oak. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #84 20120411 17:42:43
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Nope, they did not make it. I wonder how many other people in the world have not made it due to not having a chance? What a waste. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #85 20120411 19:07:20
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Their knowledge continues through you.You are their mighty oak. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #86 20120411 20:53:49
Re: PSLQ and LLL?An oak! Maybe a little bush or hedge. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #87 20120411 21:15:41
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Yes,an oak!!! Code:IdenMatrix (n, matrix):= block( [i, j, a], i: 1, j: 1, while i <= n do ( while j <= n do ( if i = j then a[i, j]: 1 else a[i, j]: 0, i: i+1, j: j+1 ) ), matrix:genmatrix(a, n, n) ); And the output is: Code:[ 1 a a ] [ 1, 2 1, 3 ] [ ] (%o13) [ a 1 a ] [ 2, 1 2, 3 ] [ ] [ a a 1 ] [ 3, 1 3, 2 ] Last edited by anonimnystefy (20120411 21:15:59) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #88 20120411 21:22:00
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Hi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #89 20120411 21:25:51
Re: PSLQ and LLL?But why does it put a[i,j] whenever i<>j? I set it to 0 if i<>j. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #90 20120411 21:27:49
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Maxima already has a built in identity function so do not worry. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #91 20120411 21:29:03
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Which function is that? Identity(n) and identity(n) don't work for me,but even if there is such a function,I want to make my own.It will be better for me. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #92 20120411 21:36:57
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Okay, but it is more serious that you are not getting these built in commands to work. We are trying to implement a PSLQ. If we get sidetracked we will never finish. What error message are you getting? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #93 20120411 21:39:13
Re: PSLQ and LLL?There is no error message.It just puts wrong 'numbers' into the matrix. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #94 20120411 21:43:41
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Hmmm. Could be a bug. What does it output for identity(2)? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #95 20120411 21:57:40
Re: PSLQ and LLL?identity(2) outputs 2.It doesn't make a matrix. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #96 20120411 22:11:02
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Hi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #97 20120411 22:14:33
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Hi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #98 20120411 22:24:39
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Same thing, I just went to the next page. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #99 20120411 22:29:50
Re: PSLQ and LLL?Yes The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #100 20120411 22:34:53
Re: PSLQ and LLL?One thing at a time. The list of commands on that page I gave might work and they might not. Do they work for you? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 