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#201 Re: Help Me ! » Factorization question » 2007-11-17 23:43:58

Thanks a lot for the tips, they sure did help!
and thanks for the exercises Identity
just a  fast question, in ex. 4 i can only find the factor x-3, is that the only one?

#202 Help Me ! » Factorization question » 2007-11-17 01:52:50

Kurre
Replies: 5

When you want to factor a polynom, are there any rules of how to progress? I know the common ones (like a^2+2ab+b^2=(a+b)^2), but i have problems with a bit advanced ones.
for example m^4 - 2m^3 - m^2 + 2m + 1 = 0
can be factored as follows:
(m^2 - m - 1)^2 = 0

It is easy to check that this example is correct, but how do you progress to find the answer? Are there any rules, or do I just need to practice to be able to see the factorization automatically??
really need to get better at this for a math competion next week...
and if you could make a few exercises it would be great smile
thanks

#203 Re: Exercises » Mathematical Induction Vol.I » 2007-10-26 21:41:00

4. induction base for 1: n(4*n²-1)/3=1(4*1-1)/3=1
now if we increase n with 1, the sum should increase with (2(n+1)-1)²=(2n+1)²

we replace n in n(4*n²-1)/3 with n+1:

(n+1)(4(n+1)²-1)/3= (n+1)(4n²+8n+4-1)/3=
( n(4n-1) + 8n²+4n+4n²+8n+4-1 )/3=
( n(4n-1) + 12n²+12n+3 )/3=
n(4n-1)/3 + 4n²+4n+1=
n(4n-1)/3 + (2n+1)²

keep posting these ganesh!

#204 Re: Exercises » Mathematical Induction Vol.I » 2007-10-26 10:49:11

2. if n=1 then n(n^2-1)=0 which is divisible by 24.
we also know that n(n^2-1)=n(n-1)(n+1)
Now we need to show that it is divisible with 24 for the next odd number, so we insert n+2 instead of n, which results in:
(n+2)(n+1)(n+3)
we now have two consecutive even numbers, which means that one of them is divisible with 2, and one with 4. These three numbers are also three consecutive numbers, which means that one of them is divisible with 3. 2*4*3=24

#205 Re: Puzzles and Games » piggies!! » 2007-06-14 08:14:06

i thought about that one too ma+th but i think it wouldnt work since it is two boxes. You cant really take two boxes and put them through eachother tongue

#206 Re: Puzzles and Games » Who owns the fish? » 2007-06-03 06:51:05

okey i looked at the version at this website, and it actually has one more clue than the one at noggintwisters. I tested it and solved it on ~10 minutes. annoying tongue

#207 Re: Puzzles and Games » Who owns the fish? » 2007-06-02 23:24:59

im sorry to bring up an old topic, but i get a lot of different solutions. The problem was on noggintwister and i can make different combinations that all follow the "rules" and all gives different answers....have i missed something, or are the clues wrong? and is that alergic thing, is that some kind of clue?

#208 Help Me ! » Programming problem » 2007-05-30 23:56:55

Kurre
Replies: 2

When I am programming my computer cant handle big numbers. If i do an operation where the result exceeds maybe ~10 digits, i get a negative value or just a wrong value. Why cant the computer handle greater numbers? How can i make them do that? I am using Delphi 7. Any help would be appreciated!

#209 Re: Puzzles and Games » Optimist or Pessimist? » 2007-05-23 04:40:09

well actually its true that E=F since in both cases the "values" are the same but E is filled with air, and F is filled with a liquid smile

#210 Re: This is Cool » Six Dimensional Universe? » 2007-05-02 08:12:02

they never came, they have always existed. We only found them...

#211 Re: This is Cool » pi » 2007-04-29 02:46:35

an easy and fast approximation of pi that i use is 3+1/7 smile
not that accurate but usually accurate enough

#212 Re: This is Cool » What Did Start Every??? » 2007-04-28 20:30:51

Devantè wrote:

I prefer pi.

thats interesting. Since pi has an infinite number of decimals, wouldnt it exist a place (or an infinte number of places) after a number of decimals where pi (or any irrational number) is a palindrome? smile

and on topic:
what if the time has existed forever? (and with forever i dont mean since the
time started, i mean that the time never started since it has always existed smile )

#213 Re: This is Cool » Other Universes and Alien Races » 2007-04-28 04:49:50

i dont think there need to be any other lifeforms in the universe (it can be so, and i want it, but it doesnt NEED to be like that as some people may think).

lets say there are many, up to billions, paralell universes (or why not an infinite amount of universes?). then lets say that life occurs in one out of 1000000 of these universes, then the chance that there might be life on another place in our universe isnt that big...

Or lets say that this universe will close after a while, since it's now expanding it will implode and when it has shrinked to a dot another big bang occurs and a new universe is created and so it continues. Which means that there have been alot of other universes before this one. Then maybe only 1 out of 1000000 of these universes will have a planet that supports life and then the chance that there may be life on two places in this universe is really low again smile.

But if this universe is the only one that exists i beleive that there may have been life on other places but if i remember correctly earth existed for a long time before life started to exist and lets say that life will be over on earth in maybe 1000-10000 years, then the period that life exists is very short and the chances they will exist at the same time as us isnt that big (ofcourse life on earth may stay here forever, but at least the chances that there will exist two civilizations at the same time in a universe is imo minimal. but not to forget, the distances in our universe are really huge and then you cant really define what exists at the same time since time is relative, right? wink )

Ofcourse the chances that a universe will support life may not  be that minimal as i assumed, but the point is that we have really no idea how life really comes up, we really dont know the deepest secrets of life so we can only roughly calculate that chances that a star sould hold a habitable planet, but there may be loads of more conditions that is needed for life that we dont know yet. i only want to prove for all people that are deadly sure we are not alone that this might not be the case. smile

and as JaneFairfax said, what is life? how do we really define life? is it something that moves, eats, that has a metabolism. The storm systems on jupiter and neptune, that have big storms that appear and disappear, is that life? All life on earth are anyway made by atoms and molecules so you could say that life on earth and the whole evolution may just be a huge mega-advanced chemical reaction. roll

#214 Re: This is Cool » Six Dimensional Universe? » 2007-04-27 04:22:44

the answer to that is simple:
42
(ok, old, i know,  but still funny! tongue)

#216 Re: Exercises » Jane’s exercises » 2007-04-03 03:12:37

Thanks for the tip Jane.
I really liked exercise 2 and 3, i really need to practise proving these types of problems. i would really appreciate if you could create more exercises like them tongue

#217 Re: Exercises » Jane’s exercises » 2007-03-19 23:18:26

JaneFairfax wrote:

You’re more or less on the correct line of thought. However the problem is to show that c is divisible by ab. It’s true that ab is less than or equal to c, but this doesn’t show that c is divisible by ab.

I’ve already given a short solution using Bézout’s identity. smile

well since ab is created by the prime factors in c, c must be divisible by ab?

#218 Re: Exercises » Jane’s exercises » 2007-03-19 05:11:53

1. every number that isnt a prime can be factorized in its prime factors, for example 36 can be factorized in 2*2*3*3.
so the number c can be factorized in the prime factors P1*P2*P3.....Pn
a and b are relatively prime so they cant have one same prime factor, but since c is divisible by both a and b, they must be created by one or some of the prime factors in c. therefor a*b can never be more than c.

for example a can be P1*P2 and b can be P3*P4. if we divide c with a and b there will still be P5*P6*....*Pn left.
but if a is P1*P2, b cant be for example P2*P3 since then both will have P2 as a prime factor.

would this be a correct proof?? still practising smile

#219 Re: Help Me ! » The area...... » 2007-03-16 20:36:09

try the same problem but instead of the perimeter, the diagonal is the same on the square and the rectangle!
(this was the problem i first solved since i thought perimeter meant diagonal big_smile)

#220 Help Me ! » Unproved theorems » 2007-03-10 21:26:34

Kurre
Replies: 5

I have heard there are some very old theorems that have not been proven and that there is a prize if you prove one. Im just curoius on what kind of problems they are. Can anyone give me a link to them with a good description?? smile

#222 Re: Puzzles and Games » physics/math problem » 2007-02-16 05:34:16

Here is my solution:

the derivative of the function will be the same as -tan for the corner in the tangent, since


(its negative since the curve is going down)
V being the angle in the corner of the triangle that the function for the tangent in (x,f(x)) creates.
V will be the same as the angle of incidence
(see picture)

B=angle of refraction


i think it works, it is maybe possible to short it down

#224 Re: Puzzles and Games » physics/math problem » 2007-02-12 09:31:53

nicely done, and cool "animation" smile
i think I got the same graph as you, altough my function is way different from your..interesting smile

#225 Puzzles and Games » physics/math problem » 2007-02-11 09:18:44

Kurre
Replies: 5

here is a math/physics problem or exercise that i made:p

You have a disc made of glass formed as shown in the picture. The edge of the disc is described by the function 4 - x².
a light beam is launched straight down at the point (x,f(x)) where it is refracted and hits the X-axle.

Your task is to describe how the distance a depends on the distance x, in other words the function a(x) smile

the law of refraction is:


where V1 is the angle of incidence, V2 the angle of refraction and N1 is the refractive index for air (1) and N2 is the refractive index for glass (1,52)


i will post my solution later smile

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