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#3226 Re: Exercises » What do you think? » 2010-04-07 10:05:04

Hi Bobby,

I came up with

.

I think my general solution gets the job done, but it's clunky.

#3227 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-04-05 23:02:35

Hi Bobby,

to MATHS -> FORUM -> GAMES were nearly the same.

WHICH -> WITCH

My answer to this is very long...but maybe I missed a good move.

#3228 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-04-05 15:26:22

My answer to FROM -> LOVE -> HATE was

, and to MILK -> SODA -> BEER is
.

MATHS -> FORUM -> GAMES

#3229 Re: Puzzles and Games » Longest last-letter sentence » 2010-04-05 15:12:13

Hi tucker,

Welcome to the game! smile

Sorry, but your "nevertheless" is invalid because the first letter of your word has to be the same as the last letter of the previous poster's word (see quittyqat's rules in post #1).

I thought this game had ground to a halt.

A couple of things:
- Progress along the way has been quite difficult because of the overuse of words ending in 'y'; and
- unless your word can somehow take this into a different direction and still make sense, a noun or adjective may fit best next.

#3230 Re: Help Me ! » Plz Help, please ! » 2010-04-05 14:27:01

2x = 5y
From that we can see that the minimum integer values of x and y are 5 and 2 respectively (2 * 5 = 5 * 2).
The minimum sum of x and y therefore is 5 + 2 = 7.

x and y maintain their integer status if their sum is any multiple of 7...and from the 5 choices only 2009 fits.

Another approach:

2x = 5y
∴ x = 5y/2

Let x + y = z

Plug in x:
5y/2 + y = z
5y + 2y = 2z
7y = 2z

So twice z must be a multiple of 7...only satisfied by 2009.

Same applies if plugging y into the x + y = z equation --> 5 times z must be a multiple of 7 (again only satisfied by 2009).

#3231 Re: Puzzles and Games » Seeking anwser for a challenging question !! » 2010-03-31 14:37:50

Hi Jane,

JaneFairfax wrote:

Do it this way.

A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2

Drag copy handle on cell B1 down to B2. Then select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle down to row 100.

Then enter this:

B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Nice! smile Much more streamlined than mine...which now looks rather clumsy.

Just a couple of things:

1. More streamlining:
A1: 1
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2
Select these two cells and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Your formula obviates the need for multiple-row selection.

2. An alternative:
A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: A1^2
B2: -(A2^2)
Select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

This alternative utilises the way Excel and OOoCalc paste a 'drag copy' of a multiple-row selection.

#3232 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-30 12:51:53

Hi Bobby,

I had to resort to a lot of starnge words to get it done

I have two versions: one using plurals and one not. The

is much more impressive because it's the longer of the two and (to me - probably not you) reads like it was compiled by a coiner of new words. Clearly my ignorance is the stumbling block here...they're probably all as common as dirt and are used everywhere.

FROM -> LOVE -> HATE

#3233 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-28 02:27:18

Hi Bobby,

I guess I must pick

But you haven't solved FIRST -> THIRD -> TENTH yet. I've found a solution...it was tough!

#3234 Re: Exercises » Is this cool with you? » 2010-03-27 14:30:10

Hi Bobby,

Granted, your solution is much more impressive-looking than ours and any astute examiner would be bowled over by the obvious amount of thought that went into that construction. It's just a pity you'd only get maximum credit for it, and not more.

beefier: fatter.
I didn't know this until now, and I'm digressing badly here, but beef-brained means thick-headed.

puffier: containing more puff.
Probably related to pollyspeak.

#3236 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-27 03:14:05

Hi Bobby,

The O.E.D. has virst as a southern Middle English variant of first. From there we can get verst, verse, terse, tense, tease etc; and so fourth, and so fifth (not to mention other intermediate routes)...until we can probably get to third after going around the world twice. I'm not even sure if such a tenuous variant existence is valid.

Your liest could continue diest, doest, goest, gorst, gorse...or diest, doest, dowst, dowse...

Maybe I'll pursue one of those lines later. Sorry...I shouldn't have posted my puzzle before checking it out virst (sic), but I didn't anticipate this snag. sad

#3237 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-26 08:55:44

FIRST -> THIRD -> TENTH

Sorry, but I haven't had time to check my new puzz...gotta rush.

#3238 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-25 14:40:21

Computer's all fixed smile ...but my pocket is lighter sad. Computer can now render a video at a good rate and at the same time give me MIF time too.

I think that pluralizing simply by adding an 's' may be one of the banned suffixes ganesh had in mind. I'm not sure about tense and other simple suffixes (eg, aided, aider).

Not sure...give them the chop (but exactly which...could be messy), or maybe just allow everything (less mess)? A drawback in allowing these simple suffixes is that they reduce the challenge. But is that important?

Maybe just banning simple 1-letter suffixes like would be good...but what about 'n' (shown, flown). There are probably others, but I have to go and can't think of examples right now.

#3239 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-25 13:53:34

A couple of obscure words in your answer, Bobby...brest & clach. You must have a good dictionary.

brest (n: damage, injury, harm, wrong; failure, want) is in the O.E.D, and clach (same as clachan - a Scottish word for a small village) appears in the Chambers and Webster's Third New International Dictionary.

My solution is a couple shorter than yours and is quite different:

I've only just picked up my computer from the computer hospital (cpu was overheating very badly), so I haven't had time to look at your puzzle yet. Looks interesting...will tonight.

#3240 Re: Jokes » blonde » 2010-03-23 02:11:54

Hi Tigeree,

"ranga"...had to look that up. Apparently it's short for orangutan, an arboreal anthropoid ape (Pongo pygmaeus) of Borneo and Sumatra, having a shaggy reddish-brown coat, very long arms, and no tail.

I wonder if that answers any questions...!

My mental picture of you has changed. You can sketch a composite picture of your face here and maybe you'd like to post the result to give us some idea of what you look like. This computerised approach will protect your anonymity.

Here's a video of a blonde who returns to work after having been out of the workforce for many years: Blonde returns to work. You can tell she hasn't unlearnt the old carriage-return action!

#3241 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-23 00:53:46

Hi Bobby,

I don't think so.

Oh. I wondered if you might have found any really good combinations.

CHESS -> BOARD -> CLOCK

#3242 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-22 11:34:46

Hi Bobby,

The Oxford English Dictionary (the full set) has sere as a variant of cere. Cere has a verbal form...hence sered. And it's a valid Scrabble word, as you said.

I use the British-English OSW (Official Scrabble Words - by Chambers) when I'm stuck. I also have the American OSPD (Official Scrabble Players Dictionary), but that has fewer words. And I have a SOWPODS list that combines the two...valuable for players interested in international tournaments that allow double-dictionary play.

Sered is in both dictionaries.

Without suffixes this puzzle would be impossible.

Did you have shorter solutions than mine to others we've done?

#3243 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-22 11:07:55

bobbym wrote:

How many did you miss by?

Only 11215! sad

Our answers are nearly identical!

Your turn. smile

#3244 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-22 02:08:04

Hi Bobby,

THREE -> SEVEN -> EIGHT

I tried to beat your record of 11235 with this one, but just missed out! sad

#3245 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-21 23:10:05

Hi Bobby,

Is that an alphametic or another type of problem?

It's a metamorphosis problem like the others in this thread. I just followed Jane's "READ a BOOK" and "PLAY with FIRE" notation style where she used connecting words different from the usual word "to" in order to keep to her problem theme.

It just so happened that, numerically speaking, my third word is the sum of the first two.

#3246 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-21 22:34:07

Hi Bobby,

Were you fishing for a Tigeree response?

FIVE + FOUR = NINE

#3247 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-21 15:24:42

bobbym wrote:

I though you were supposed to come up with the longest way to do these? I have a 11235 length one I was going to post...

That would have to be a string of 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 or 18-letter words (without repeats), as the other lengths have fewer than 11235 in the dictionary.

#3248 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-21 15:18:13

Hi Bobby,

If it's okay with Jane it is okay with me. Let's use em.

Ok...maybe it will open the game up a bit and appeal to more. Hope ganesh is ok with that.

Your BABY to GIRL has an error. BABE to CARE is a 2 letter change.

Oops...not enough care. Or any 'CARE', for that matter. I left out the "CARE" in between.

#3249 Re: Puzzles and Games » Metamorphosis » 2010-03-21 14:50:06

Hi Bobby,

My answer for ZERO to NULL to LOVE is shorter.

EDIT: I can't count...just noticed our scores are the same.

Re WOMAN to WAKED to MANLY: "Suffixes are not permitted"...from ganesh's rules in post #1.

I don't know exactly what is meant by that rule or how strictly we should apply it. For instance, Jane's first solution to Challenge #8 is BROWN, BLOWN, BLOWS, FLOWS, FLOES, FLEES, FREES, FREED, GREED, GREEN...containing 7 suffixes.

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