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#1 2010-02-15 07:19:46

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Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Here is the question:

what is the difference for the equation of  "square of 1 - square of 2 + square of 3 - square of 4........+ square of 99 - square of 100"?

I got -5500, is that correct?dunno

Please give any assitance!

Thank you for helping!!!big_smile


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#2 2010-02-15 07:24:53

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Hi iamfriendly;

I don't think that is correct, I am getting an answer of - 5050


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#3 2010-02-15 07:32:47

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thank u!!

i will double check but i think i m on the right track


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#4 2010-02-15 07:34:02

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Yep, you are correct, Thank you again!!


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#5 2010-02-15 07:36:50

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

May I ask how did you got the answer, we probably used different methods?


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#6 2010-02-15 07:48:54

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Hi;

Of course you can ask. I do it the easy way.

There are 2 ways I work that type of problem when I need a quick rough and tumble answer.

!) I take it to wolfram alpha, a site that is available to everyone. It immediately provides the -5050 result.

2) I look it up in a table of sums that was provided to me when I needed them on a daily basis for problems.



Then just substitute in for n = 100 to get -5050.

Actually to do it analytically is not difficult at all, you can try differences and a generating function. Proving that your answer is correct would probably involve induction.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#7 2010-02-17 22:58:08

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I did it in

and also in
.

They were the easy ways for me.

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#8 2010-04-01 08:21:10

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that's kool , very KOOL Thank you


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#9 2010-04-01 10:17:13

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

phrontister wrote:

Do it this way.

A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: sad-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2

Drag copy handle on cell B1 down to B2. Then select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle down to row 100.

Then enter this:

B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

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#10 2010-04-01 10:33:51

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Proof:

If n is even, the sum is equal to


If n is odd, evaluate the sum to n−1 (which is even) and add n2.

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#11 2010-04-01 13:37:50

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Hi Jane,

JaneFairfax wrote:

Do it this way.

A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2

Drag copy handle on cell B1 down to B2. Then select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle down to row 100.

Then enter this:

B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Nice! smile Much more streamlined than mine...which now looks rather clumsy.

Just a couple of things:

1. More streamlining:
A1: 1
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2
Select these two cells and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Your formula obviates the need for multiple-row selection.

2. An alternative:
A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: A1^2
B2: -(A2^2)
Select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

This alternative utilises the way Excel and OOoCalc paste a 'drag copy' of a multiple-row selection.

Last edited by phrontister (2010-04-02 10:43:55)


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