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## #1 2008-03-12 03:20:05

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### Math puzzle?

30-28,9-33,1-27,100-7,111-5,2-44,51-15,67-5,12-16,101-13,30-3,117-3,112-14,76-27,84-3,76-9,
22-15,75-4,51-12,99-36,101-14,100-2,10-13,92-5,60-12,6-2,34-4,103-10,3-45,49-5,90-4,18-11,
78-9,59-44,64-2,3-17,51-15,114-40,42-13

Can anyone help me with this?? Is is some sort of cipher or what?

I need to get a set of coordinates from the above puzzle.

The answer will probably be in this form

N 00° 00.000 W 000° 00.000

THANKS FOR THE HELP!

Last edited by sa6274 (2008-03-12 05:30:52)

## #2 2008-03-12 07:16:32

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### Re: Math puzzle?

Try plotting the points ... it may write something out.

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..."  - Leon M. Lederman

## #3 2008-03-12 07:39:16

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### Re: Math puzzle?

John E. Franklin is very good at plotting points – so let’s wait for him to do it.

Last edited by JaneFairfax (2008-03-12 09:37:18)

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## #4 2008-03-12 09:04:00

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### Re: Math puzzle?

Yeah, come on John, let's see if it works or not.

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..."  - Leon M. Lederman

## #5 2008-03-15 11:07:55

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### Re: Math puzzle?

Here's a x-y tiny plot.
The lower-left black pixel is (1,1).

Last edited by John E. Franklin (2008-03-15 13:50:07)

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## #6 2008-03-15 13:51:44

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### Re: Math puzzle?

I tried connecting the dots in order and got about halfway and
it looked messy.  One interesting thing is to examine the
odd/even behavior of the numbers.  This seems not random.
The 51-15 happens twice.
Here are some silly ideas:

#### Code:

```even/odd  Plus Minus
e 58 He 2 30-28   Zn Ni
e 42 Cr 24 9-33    F As
e 28 Fe 26 1-27    H Co
o 107 Np 93 100-7   ?? N
e 116 ?? 106  111-5   ?? B
e 46 Mo 42  2-44    He  Ru
e 66 Kr 36  51-15   Sb P
e 72 Sm 62 67-5    Ho B
e 28 Be 4  12-16   C S
e 114 Ra 88 101-13  ?? Al
o 33 Co 27 30-3    Zn Li
e 120 ?? 114  117-3   ?? Li
e 126 ?? 98  112-14  ?? Si
o 103 In 49  76-27  Os Co
o 87 Tl 81 84-3   Po Li
o 85 Ho 67 76-9   Os F
o 37 N  7  22-15  Ti P
o 79 Lu 71  75-4   Re?Os Be
o 63 Y  39 51-12  Sb Mg
o 135 Eu 63 99-36  ?? Kr
o 115 Fr 87 101-14 ?? Si
e 102 ?? 98 100-2  ?? He
o 23 Li 3  10-13  Ne Al
o 97 Fr 87  92-5   U N
e 72 Cd 48 60-12  Nd Mg
e 8  Be 4  6-2   C  He
e 38 Zn 30  34-4  Se Be
o 113 Np 93  103-10  ?? Ne
e 48 Mo 42  3-45   Li Rh
e 54 Ru 44  49-5  In B
e 94 Rn 86  90-4  Th Be
o 29 N  7  18-11 Ar Na
o 87 Tm 69  78-9  Pt F
o 103 P  15  59-44 Pr Ru
e 66 Sm 62  64-2  Gd He
e 20 Si 14  3-17 LiCl
e 66 Kr 36  51-15  Sb P
e 154 W  74  114-40 ?? Zr
o 55 Cu 29  42-13  Mo Al
totalX:2303
totalY:586
X+Y=2889
X-Y=1717```

Last edited by John E. Franklin (2008-03-15 13:59:22)

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## #7 2008-03-19 07:46:49

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### Re: Math puzzle?

? 30-28,9-33,1-27,100-7,111-5,2-44,51-15,67-5,12-16,101-13,30-3,117-3,112-14,76-27,84-3,76-9,
22-15,75-4,51-12,99-36,101-14,100-2,10-13,92-5,60-12,6-2,34-4,103-10,3-45,49-5,90-4,18-11,
78-9,59-44,64-2,3-17,51-15,114-40,42-13

What exactly was the original phrase?  How was the question asked and what is expected?
Are you sure that you typed in the correct data?
Could you give ALL of the information that you started with?

## #8 2008-03-19 16:11:16

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### Re: Math puzzle?

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=d1a22277-082f-4462-9ef3-7c93d76a91b5

It is some sort of puzzle for finding a geocache.  You are supposed to find a set of coordinates from the numbers.

## #9 2008-03-31 13:07:26

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### Re: Math puzzle?

These are parts of a waypoint file.

A typical waypoint is given in Longitude/Latitude.
Some of the geocaching methods will give a distance & bearing to the next waypoint.

The file appears to be a listing of Degrees--minutes.

As listed a Long/Lat or Lat/Long pair will give a Lat of greater that 90 degrees,
so they are NOT geographic coordinates.

They are distance & angle waypoints.
EXCEPT the distances are not supplied.

You will need:
1) to get a GPS receiver,
2) find the initial starting point (from the clues from the geocache site)
3) physically get to that point
4) enter the DEGREES-MINUTES elements into your GPS receiver
& then look for the most significant object in that direction
you will probably, my guess, find a geocache at each terminus.

The distances are missing from this set of waypoints.
If you had the actual distances, you could plot a path
and skip the intermediates.

The information (from the source given) indicates a distance of approximately
30 miles.

If ( a big IF ) each leg of the way point is one mile,
then you would be about 31 miles from the starting point at the
end of the way point listing.

## #10 2008-04-05 04:36:12

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### Re: Math puzzle?

Thanks for the help. I tried projecting waypoints with my GPS, however my GPS will only project the waypoints as Degrees I cannot use minutes or decimals.  So my gps will be off by the amount of minutes in each set.

It gave me a general area. I will have to see if I can get the actual coordinates.

## #11 2008-08-13 10:06:05

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### Re: Math puzzle?

wow that's interesting! I, or rather my teacher found a geocache near my house when we were looking for snakes: I think I wanna put one somewhere...

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## #12 2009-07-28 08:54:48

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### Re: Math puzzle?

#### John E. Franklin wrote:

Here's a x-y tiny plot.
The lower-left black pixel is (1,1).

how old are you