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#1 2016-12-18 12:54:03

numquester
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What is EM?

I assume that it is an abbreviation for, <something> math.

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#2 2016-12-18 13:07:06

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Re: What is EM?

Hi;

If you check google you will find lots of things that EM could stand for. Here is my favorite.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=19346

Love reading these old posts. Man, can that guy blather away. Wonder how many keyboards he wears away in a year? His fingers must be worn down to the bone and have the consistency of ghoulash.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#3 2016-12-18 13:24:54

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Re: What is EM?

Ghoulash?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#4 2016-12-18 13:25:53

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Re: What is EM?

A play on words.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#5 2016-12-18 13:39:52

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Re: What is EM?

Is that delicious? What does it mean for that to be consistent?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#6 2016-12-18 13:42:58

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Re: What is EM?

I have never eaten it, although I like and eat stew.

What does it mean for that to be consistent?

I was saying that guys fingers must be soft as stew (goulash) from all that typing. I was being humorous hoping to poke a bit of fun at the ole pompous baffoon. After all, how can he harm me?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#7 2016-12-18 20:20:18

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Re: What is EM?

Agnishom wrote:

Ghoulash?

A main ingredient in ghoul gravy, which gained popularity shortly after the development of the modern crematory.

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#8 2016-12-19 03:06:11

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Re: What is EM?

I like writing too. Have you seen my notes?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#9 2016-12-19 04:41:27

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Re: What is EM?

There is a difference between writing and long winded.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#10 2016-12-19 06:01:27

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Re: What is EM?

Agnishom wrote:

I like writing too. Have you seen my notes?

They could be hidng in a piano, or other such place.

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#11 2016-12-19 08:12:14

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Re: What is EM?

That is what I was thinking too.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#12 2016-12-19 13:25:29

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Re: What is EM?

Hm, whose stuff is long winded?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#13 2016-12-19 13:30:49

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Re: What is EM?

That guy that wrote that post, so long ago.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#14 2016-12-19 13:35:58

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Re: What is EM?

bobbym?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#15 2016-12-19 13:36:48

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Re: What is EM?

Yes, he always was full of sheep dip.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#16 2016-12-19 13:39:09

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Re: What is EM?

bobbym wrote:

If I become any more verbose, I would be arrested.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#17 2016-12-19 13:41:56

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Re: What is EM?

You are not verbose.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#18 2016-12-19 13:44:11

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Re: What is EM?

Thank you, I will take that as a complement.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#19 2016-12-19 13:46:25

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Re: What is EM?

What did you think of that post?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#20 2016-12-19 14:00:20

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Re: What is EM?

I think it expresses your sentiments, but if someone is truly confused and wants to know what EM is, it does not help them.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#21 2016-12-19 14:03:12

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Re: What is EM?

Hmm, both EVW and jimmyR said it was easily the best post ever written on this forum and were astounded that no one here seemed to understand it. I explained that, by saying modern people have no concept of the history of math or its origins and therefore could not grasp it. I reminded them of the lions paw post.

Why did you not chime in and explain EM to him then?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#22 2016-12-19 14:14:39

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Re: What is EM?

The post may be great, but it turns out it is not appropriate for the targetted audience, i.e, the audience who would ask "What is EM?" in the first place. jimmyR and EVW are practitioners of EM and also your close friends, they can see what you tried to explain but not the others. I can briefly explain why no one else gets it, if you want me to.

I can try but I am afraid I do not know enough.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#23 2016-12-19 14:18:00

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Re: What is EM?

Are you saying it was too highbrow?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#24 2016-12-19 14:25:25

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Re: What is EM?

I do not know what that means.

Here is what you're doing in your article:
a) Explaining why EM is useful
b) Quoting people about the history of Mathematics
c) Explaining how things could change if EM were used.

Some of the crucial points missing from your post are:
a) What exactly is EM? What does experimental really mean?
b) How experimental mathematics is different from what non-mathematicians believe what mathematics is.
c) Where regular mathematics fails and EM works.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#25 2016-12-19 14:29:45

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Re: What is EM?

a) can hardly be explained, it is like saying what is music or art.

b) I think I covered.

c) That would require a lot of examples.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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