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**juxta****Member**- Registered: 2012-05-19
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Hello everyone, its has been a while since i last visited. I have a small problem on functions at the moment, I looked over the internet but couldn't find the solution to this small problem. So here is the problem, in the picture below:

Is this a valid function? Where 'b' can go twice to the range? I looked at the answers from my question sheet and it said it is not a surjection :S

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is not a function.

A function is a relation that relates every element of the domain to exactly one element of the co-domain.

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**juxta****Member**- Registered: 2012-05-19
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! Thanks for the link as well, didn't know about this.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You are welcome.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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What does it being surjective have anything to do with it being a function? Anyway, to tell if it is a surjective function, we need it's codomain.

Agnishom wrote:

It is not a function.

A function is a relation that relates every element of the domain to exactly one element of the co-domain.

No, you mean range or image.

*Last edited by ShivamS (2014-05-20 08:02:38)*

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Range is that subset of the codomain which consists of all those and only all those elements on which something has been mapped.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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What about it?

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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As an added note, you are assuming that all functions are surjective. That is not the case.

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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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So?

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