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## #1 2013-11-28 09:15:05

karategirl1925
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Heyy ~ I'm Tina
I'm learning stuff at about GCSE - A level standard, and I'm currently working on trying to add/subtract numbers faster mentally and the binomial theorem as well as factorisation problems, freakishly hard, etc.  yeah, so if anyone has any suggestions or tips on simplifying square rooted numbers inside of square rooted numbers and factorising square roots, I'd be happy to know -- I'm in year 8 (I know, I know) and I'm going to take the IMC from the UKMT challenges next year so if anyone has any tips on that then great.
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## #2 2013-11-28 14:24:14

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Hi karategirl1925;

Welcome to the forum.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

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## #3 2013-11-28 19:54:49

bob bundy
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hi Tina,

Welcome to the forum.

so if anyone has any suggestions or tips on simplifying square rooted numbers inside of square rooted numbers and factorising square roots,

I'm not quite sure what you're after here.  Would you give us some examples please?

Bob

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## #4 2013-11-29 05:15:33

karategirl1925
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Hi Bob ~
So what I mean is a bit hard to express because we can't show stuff like square roots..(or can we?)
e.g. √17+12√2 is one I've been trying to simplify, and the seventeen plus twelve square rooted two is all inside one massive square root, not seventeen squared etc.
help?
thanks

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## #5 2013-11-29 05:33:23

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Hi;

This is the problem?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

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## #6 2013-11-29 15:53:07

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Hi Tina

Welcome to the forum!

Hi bobbym

I'd say this is:

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2013-11-29 16:42:45)

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## #7 2013-11-29 16:27:16

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Have you figured what numbers always make this simplification possible?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

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## #8 2013-11-29 16:44:22

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No, but I remember the formula:

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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## #9 2013-11-29 21:22:04

bob bundy
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hi Tina,

Sometimes these can be simplified and sometimes not.

You could try setting your expression equal to a + √b and then squaring to see what results.

To make mathematical expressions on the forum you need to use a code called Latex.

eg

$\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+12 \sqrt{2}}$

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=4397

http://latex.codecogs.com/editor.php

Bob

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## #10 2015-03-24 07:08:01

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karategirl1925 wrote:

Heyy ~ I'm Tina
I'm learning stuff at about GCSE - A level standard, and I'm currently working on trying to add/subtract numbers faster mentally and the binomial theorem as well as factorisation problems, freakishly hard, etc.  yeah, so if anyone has any suggestions or tips on simplifying square rooted numbers inside of square rooted numbers and factorising square roots, I'd be happy to know -- I'm in year 8 (I know, I know) and I'm going to take the IMC from the UKMT challenges next year so if anyone has any tips on that then great.
Good byeh ~

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## #11 2015-03-24 10:44:21

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Hi shyclaw;

The report you made is against a member that is long gone.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.

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## #12 2015-03-25 02:41:15

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Oh

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