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#51 2013-11-17 00:09:49

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Maybe I should open a thread inviting stefy to teach me Maxima?


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#52 2013-11-17 00:16:18

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I do not know much more about it than you.


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#53 2013-11-17 00:21:30

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But you can surely guide me through the programming in it


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#54 2013-11-17 00:21:51

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pappym used to say, "when the student is ready the master will appear." The real quote is, "when the master is ready the student will appear." My quote,"when the mathematician is ready the CAS will appear."


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#55 2013-11-17 00:25:47

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My question is 'How to be ready?'

Is there a Maxima forum?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#56 2013-11-17 00:29:16

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My question is 'How to be ready?'

I think I could partially answer that but not without influencing you. That would be wrong.

About a forum? There maybe, I do not know. Maxima is rather poor when it comes to documentation and support.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#57 2013-11-17 00:32:17

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Okay, I have sandboxed myself.

How to be ready now?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#58 2013-11-17 00:36:03

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You already know how to program in several languages. Using Maxima in the same way you would use Pascal is a mistake. They are not the same, even though you can use a screwdriver as a hammer, it is not a hammer.

The purpose of a CAS is to get you to think mathematically even about programming problems. In other words to combine programming and math to get results neither can get alone.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#59 2013-11-17 00:38:03

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Okay, but how do I stop thinking like a programmer and start thinking like a mathematician?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#60 2013-11-17 00:42:47

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That was a long process for me. I originally became a programmer to do math problems I could not do using math. Then I found out that using math I could speed programs up by thousands of times, so I went back and forth. I am still working on it and it has been 23 years!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#61 2013-11-17 00:52:52

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But how will I get it? I cannot buy it because $139.95 is NaN times my monthly earnings($0.0).


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#62 2013-11-17 00:58:46

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Yes, I know that. But it only comes in at about 1 GB and you should have enough to spare that. Also you can ask for wolfram to send you a CD.

In the meantime until you figure it out on your own I will assist you with maxima as best I can.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#63 2013-11-17 01:10:48

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If this is not a very private question, how much data do you consume in 24hrs?


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'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#64 2013-11-17 01:12:55

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Probably less than 100MB per day, alot less. When I am downloading big files then it is naturally more.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#65 2013-11-17 01:14:23

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How can that be true? Don't you watch a lot of youtube?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#66 2013-11-17 01:17:13

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I download it once and watch it many times. I already have tons of them.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#67 2013-11-17 01:19:52

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I think I should request that guy who downloaded the Precise Pangolin for me to download this. Maybe, he should like it because he is a Computer Science student.

Is it possible to run Mathematica on Linux?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#68 2013-11-17 01:23:44

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Yes, it is possible but I do not know anything about the installation of it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#69 2013-11-17 01:32:21

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http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8630916/ … _%28Win%29(view with an ad blocker)

It is double the size you told


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#70 2013-11-17 01:36:06

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Mine is only about 1.12 GB.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#71 2013-11-17 01:39:02

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which version?

Why is Maxima, MATLAB, SciLab, GNU Octave, etc not enough for the math I will do?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#72 2013-11-17 01:44:45

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No one else is using them so it is difficult to help you. There will always be problems in translation. Also, M has more documentation and forums than all of those put together! M also knows more math.

I am not trying to convince you, when you make up your own mind then it will happen.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#73 2013-11-21 16:05:10

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196627050475552913618075908526912116283103450944214766927315415537966391196809

this is what I got till now.


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#74 2013-11-21 16:07:14

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For which did you do?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#75 2013-11-21 16:07:29

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How did you do it?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

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