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#2451 2013-10-11 21:58:45

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Re: What do you think?

Okay.


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#2452 2013-10-11 22:15:11

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Hi;

I am getting a mean of about 3.023


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2453 2013-10-11 22:23:19

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According to the simulation, a guess would be  3ab / pi .
But when I calculate the integral as done for the triangle, I get 6ab / pi .


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2454 2013-10-11 22:30:49

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Instead of running a simulation. Plot the 4 vertices a couple of dozen times. I think that will convince you that the answer is very close to 3.025


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2455 2013-10-11 22:38:06

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Yes, I need to rethink the analytical way then.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2456 2013-10-11 22:40:16

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Yes, I need to rethink the analytical way then.

That is probably true. Looking at each quadrilateral created they were all simple and all had vertices on the ellipse. I have a geogebra demonstration too.

I have a chore to do so I will be offline for awhile. See you then.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2457 2013-10-11 22:53:00

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Okay, see you later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2458 2013-10-12 00:11:54

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Hi gAr;

Any results yet?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2459 2013-10-12 00:29:32

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Hi,

Nothing other than the results I've told earlier.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2460 2013-10-12 00:31:30

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Hi;

I am having a little bit of trouble with it too.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2461 2013-10-12 00:37:14

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It's okay..


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2462 2013-10-12 00:41:36

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I am wondering why. Is it because there are many types of quadrilaterals?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2463 2013-10-12 00:56:32

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I'm not sure why.

Need to take a break, see you later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2464 2013-10-12 00:58:52

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Hi;

Okay, see you later. Thanks for coming in.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2465 2014-02-05 21:12:04

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B is about to fly of on a plane. He's got his ticket, but, because of wasting time in the snack bar, he was the last passenger in the line for boarding the plane. He gets in line and, thinking about how long he'll have to wait, he remembers that the tickets for his plane, which holds a hundred passengers, have been sold out. He also notices that the first person in line is a stubborn, old lady from his neighborhood whose eyesight is not the best. He knows that she will enter the plane and take a random seat and also that each passenger after will take his own seat if it is free and a random seat if his own is taken. B is wandering what his chances are of sitting in his own seat.

Same problem was asked in brilliant by a member there!
https://brilliant.org/community-problem/lost-boarding-pass/?group=AaGVLnK0JXOo


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2466 2014-02-05 21:15:46

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Hi gAr;

Probably got it while reading some book. It is a fairly standard problem.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2467 2014-02-05 21:22:35

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That's right, just saying.
Because I looked back here to enter the answer.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2468 2014-02-05 21:28:05

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Hi;

Where did you find it?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2469 2014-02-05 21:33:55

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Hi,

Find what?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2470 2014-02-05 21:36:01

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Re: What do you think?

The quote in post #2465. Where did you find it?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#2471 2014-02-05 21:38:22

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That was asked by anonimnystefy in this thread.
Searched it using keywords: seat site:mathisfunforum.com


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#2472 2014-02-05 21:51:20

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Hi;

I got it thanks.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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