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#1 2013-09-25 05:34:56

Agnishom
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Why silent edit?

Hi MathsIsFun;

My apologies if this post is too rude but...
That is not a good thing. Years ago, even MIF did not have this facility.

I agree that mods might need to edit things. But, why silently? He is not supposed to be afraid to edit something? That denies the responsibility of the mod. Moreover, that threatens the non-mod folks because it looks like he has said which he didn't.

Besides, if there was a timestamp and just a timestamp of the edit and the mod, why would it harm anyone?

;
I sincerely hope that no mod or Admin(including MIF) is going to alter this line or the the lines above it because I really want a response from him.

Last edited by Agnishom (2013-09-25 05:40:21)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#2 2013-09-25 05:41:46

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

Hi Agnishom;

Silent edit is for a person's own posts. If I have to ever edit someone else's post it is for security reasons or disciplinary action. Then it is not silent. But thank heavens that is extremely rare.

Silent edit has been around since I joined.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#3 2013-09-25 05:44:34

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

Then it is not silent.

It is.

I've seen you editing a lot of posts without any timestamp left behind.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#4 2013-09-25 05:51:08

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

Yes, I make a lot of mistakes when I post. My vision is not good and my left hand is useless to me so typing and checking takes a long time. I usually need to edit a post 3 or 4 times. Because I am an admin there is no timestamp.

If that is the cause of the confusion then I do apologize. Most of the people here know what to expect when I post. They know it will be changed in a minute or so.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#5 2013-09-25 05:55:21

anonimnystefy
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Re: Why silent edit?

bobbym wrote:

Because I am an admin there is no timestamp.

I think that is the main problem. Why does it have to be silent for mods and admins?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#6 2013-09-25 05:56:02

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

I mean you edit a lot of my posts without leaving a edit-stamp behind.

You're welcome to edit but why should you remove the timestamp?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#7 2013-09-25 06:02:15

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

I rarely ever edit anyone's post. I believe in free speech. Just posts you and I talk about private matters. When I delete mine I sometimes am forced to edit the post before too. You agree that sometimes this is necessary.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#8 2013-09-25 06:03:55

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

I do agree.

But, that does not explain why it has to be silent


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#9 2013-09-25 06:08:18

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

Just a privilege that is given to mods. In my case it makes me look smarter than I am.

When I have had to edit another person's post you will see [ admin removed blah blah blah ]


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#10 2013-09-25 06:10:55

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

I reckon you do that manually? and the square bracket occurs because you're influenced by the M syntax?

Last edited by Agnishom (2013-09-25 06:11:58)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#11 2013-09-25 06:16:07

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

That is good reasoning but I think I got it from MIF.

Sorry, I did not see anonimnystefy up there.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#12 2013-09-25 06:18:57

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

where?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#13 2013-09-25 06:21:16

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

He slipped in on post #5 and got buried.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#14 2013-09-25 06:48:09

anonimnystefy
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Re: Why silent edit?

Doesn't matter.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#15 2013-09-25 07:04:55

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

Do we have silent edit over at your place?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#16 2013-09-25 07:33:44

anonimnystefy
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Re: Why silent edit?

There is, and I don't know how to turn it of.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#17 2013-09-25 08:08:46

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

That is odd, here we have a checkbox.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#18 2013-09-25 08:18:09

anonimnystefy
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Re: Why silent edit?

Well, there is probably one for my forum as well, but I cannot find it.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#19 2013-09-25 08:22:43

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

If it is on by default then that means it is the preferred setting.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#20 2013-09-25 09:18:40

bob bundy
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Re: Why silent edit?

I seem to remember having a choice to turn this on and off ages ago, but I cannot find it now.  Also everybody's  posts used to say 'last edited at ...' but that seems to have disappeared for me,  too.  Cannot find anything to suggest I've turned this off. ???

I'm like bobbym in that I make slip ups when I first post.  Usually because my mathematics has rushed ahead of my reading and writing so I may have answered a completely different question from the one asked, or just messed up my answer by putting in the wrong things.

I always read through what I've typed and often have to make corrections.  I don't think these really count as edits, just eliminating typos etc.

If I do have a later thought then I put something like LATER EDIT: to show this.

If I make a mistake that shows up later I may go back and add an edit so that readers are not mis-informed by such a thing.  I don't usually re-write history to make it seem like I never make mistakes.

Why is the issue of silent edits important?

Bob


You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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#21 2013-09-25 09:21:29

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Re: Why silent edit?

I see no reason for the edits to be silent.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#22 2013-09-25 09:41:03

bobbym
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Re: Why silent edit?

None other than the choice of the mod.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#23 2013-09-25 13:03:18

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

anonimnystefy wrote:

There is, and I don't know how to turn it of.

Could you modify the php scripts?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#24 2013-09-25 13:16:50

anonimnystefy
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Re: Why silent edit?

I have no idea. dunno


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#25 2013-09-25 13:31:43

Agnishom
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Re: Why silent edit?

besides, you can be a good mod and add the following line manually:

Last edited by anonimnystefy (Yesterday 22:10:21)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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