Discussion about math, puzzles, games and fun. Useful symbols: ÷ × ½ √ ∞ ≠ ≤ ≥ ≈ ⇒ ± ∈ Δ θ ∴ ∑ ∫ π -¹ ² ³ °

You are not logged in.

- Topics: Active | Unanswered

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

You will have to get a faster machine.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

The same thing happened to me -_-

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

'But our love is like the wind. I can't see it but I can feel it.' -A Walk to remember

Offline

bobbym wrote:

You will have to get a faster machine.

It has got nothing to do with a faster machine, he means something else

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

'But our love is like the wind. I can't see it but I can feel it.' -A Walk to remember

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

I know I was pulling his leg!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

But it should not take more than a few months to get used to it. I downloaded Sagemath as well.

*Last edited by Shivamcoder3013 (2013-04-04 00:35:55)*

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

It will take years.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

Is any CAS really SIMPLE? I don't think so

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

'But our love is like the wind. I can't see it but I can feel it.' -A Walk to remember

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

I meant for all my practical purposes.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

If they were simple how could they do mathematics which is not simple?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

Mathematics is not too complicated if you have the intuition and good work ethics.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

What if you do not? Computational mathematics is very difficult.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

That is the thing. 95% or probably more do not have the intuition.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

I have been looking at mine since 1998. I still only have scratched the surface. But even so a package can give useful results with only 10 minutes of training.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

Agreed. However, what about the developers? Have they not mastered computational maths?

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

They are superhuman. Jerry Kiepfer largely wrote mathematica and William Schelter, maxima. Sage is the same. These guys are very, very good.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

I have heard of William. There is no mention of Jerry though... Funny thing is, Maxima and similar CAS' are so unpopular.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

The mathematics community and academia do not wish to change the same old courses they have taught since Legendre introduced them.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

Essentially, everyday I see children from school running with no bright future available.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

They have no future. They are not being educated to have one.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

I am going the same way essentially. Focusing too much on maths and leaving the sciences behind.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

I would say that is the right mix. 99% math and 1% science.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

Really, science is more important to me then maths. I want to keep as much of a balance as I can.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

That is a good balance. Science changes by the day, math does not. To be good at science requires lots and lots of math as you know.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline

**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
- Posts: 3,646

True, but science is thebasis of life. I agree that both are equally important and without one of them we can not do. As least some of us.

Offline

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 97,244

It is hard to find a good balance but you should try.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

Offline