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Was mathematics invented or discovered?This is a question I’ve seen on at least two other forums. I did a search here but couldn’t find any thread on this topic so I thought I’d start one. 134 books currently added on Goodreads #2 20130310 01:52:31
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?I think all of it was only discovered. When I think of it now, everything that exists in this world was only discovered, even though we call some things inventions and not discoveries. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #3 20130310 02:08:40
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?If you are a Platonist, you will believe it is discovered. The inference is that it exists in nature and therefore is incredibly deep and meaningful. Last edited by bobbym (20130310 02:10:37) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #4 20130310 02:18:05
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Well, something was invented if it hadn’t existed before and was brought into existence by human agency; on the other hand it was discovered if it has always existed, even before humans were aware of it. Last edited by Nehushtan (20130318 11:43:54) 134 books currently added on Goodreads #5 20130310 19:42:43
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?hi
I'm happy with that. I might say that the tools and equipment are the axioms and the discoveries are the theorems. That works for me. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #6 20130310 19:50:48
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?But then you would be making a difference between a written word and number. They both always existed, someone just had to find them. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #7 20130310 20:00:11
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Six sheep can exist without humans having to be around at all. But calling that amount of sheep 'six' is a human invention. I thought I had established that all numbers are inventions. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #8 20130310 20:09:53
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?It is still there. Waiting and waiting for someone to discover it. Maybe nobody ever would and maybe someone will. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #9 20130317 09:44:38
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?I think it was invented, because numbers don't exist. They are a placeholder we use for a certain amount. They're not exactly one thing, if they were, shapeshifting could exist, because numbers would be everywhere. They're sort of a principle.  n872yt3r Math Is Fun Rocks! By the power of the exponent, I square and cube you! #10 20130322 01:51:18
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Mathematics is an artifact of the human mind, and a tool whereby the human mind wraps itself around reality. #11 20130421 04:45:28
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Yes, exactly right, digits. #12 20130426 20:21:24
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The idea of a placeholder makes sense. Prime numbers have got to be the neatest things; they are like atoms. Composites are two or more primes held together by multiplication. In biology, we use math like we know what we are talking about. Sad isn't it. #13 20130426 21:29:16
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Wasn't it Kronecker who said,"God invented the integers, all the rest is man's" In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #14 20131114 03:20:06
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?some of the posts here are deleted? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #15 20131114 05:22:39
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Hmmm, that is difficult to say. Was GiB in this thread? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #16 20131114 12:17:49
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?I do not think so. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #17 20131114 12:21:23
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Because that is rarely done unless he is involved, then it is common. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #18 20131114 12:29:36
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?But this discussion is very important. You should not delete things here. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #19 20131114 12:33:36
Re: Was mathematics invented or discovered?Who said I did? I do not remember it or have any record of that. I was just saying it probably could only occur with him. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 