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#76 2013-03-05 22:33:54

noemi
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you are looking on God as on man... you can't trapped Him in the same box.. His mind is multidimensional... He is the alpha and omega.. He has no time.. the decision He makes now, He knows what will be the result..
His will determines the way your ways should be.. He doesn't have to be corrected.. all He does is complement things
He has a free will to give you and to take away from you.. and at any time He is just..

I really have too much work..so, have a rest smile

 

#77 2013-03-05 22:35:34

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All incorrect. Read Exodus 32 : 9 onwards and see the old testament deity change his mind. Of course he can change his mind.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#78 2013-03-06 04:48:18

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yep... if you're correct - I must be incorrect, bobbym.

 

#79 2013-03-06 04:55:11

anonimnystefy
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Hi bobbym

Shouldn't it be "His", not "his"?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#80 2013-03-06 05:00:31

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is this mocking, stefy?

 

#81 2013-03-06 05:11:23

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Hi noemi

No, it is not.

Who did you think I was mocking and why would you think that?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#82 2013-03-06 05:27:36

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yep... if you're correct - I must be incorrect, bobbym.

Did you read from 9 onwards?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#83 2013-03-06 05:38:51

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you are so predictable .. didn't He know all those things? He knew them and had let them be written...

 

#84 2013-03-06 05:44:01

bobbym
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It says He repented and changed his mind. Moses rebuked him. That is what the passage says, I do not see the sense in interpreting things to suit your viewpoint.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#85 2013-03-06 05:50:42

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Moses was praying and.. God heard his prayer..Proverbs 15:29 The Lord is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
if you pray He will answer to you too..
but He knows everything since the very first beginning..cause He is the beginning

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#86 2013-03-06 05:53:52

bobbym
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That has nothing to do with Exodus 32 : 9 - 15. Why are you avoiding answering the question?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#87 2013-03-06 06:13:59

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it has.. read 11 verse

 

#88 2013-03-06 06:18:13

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Exactly, Moses changed his mind and he repented for his sin?

13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.

14 And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

It is all there in black and white.

Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-06 06:18:31)


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#89 2013-03-06 06:31:43

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well.. moses asked for mercy for his ppl.. God answered...
in my translation is another word instead of repent..it's "gave up"

this evil doesn't mean God was supposed to sin against them..He was just about to do justice, but Moses asked for mercy.. and He listened.. (I've said..and I'll say it again.. God had known Israel's sin before and he had known this Moses request before..and that He will approve it..He just let it to be written...I don't know if you understand me..)

when I said 11th verse I meant "And Moses besought the Lord his God,

I know what are you trying to say.. but don't you think that God is going to give up on judgement day...

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#90 2013-03-06 06:44:32

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Gave up, means he changed his mind. Moses convinced him to do something other than he thought to do. That means he can change his mind, he has free will.

in my translation is another word instead of repent..it's "gave up"

Your translation is flawed.

I have a KJV that is more than 100 years old. The word is repented. You have to watch out for later translations by men.

Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-06 07:02:53)


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#91 2013-03-29 23:34:44

anonimnystefy
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noemi wrote:

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth

I just remembered. Have you heard Severina's song?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#92 2013-10-19 01:58:50

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So, did you all figure out what Justice is?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda
 

#93 2013-10-19 09:27:35

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I don't think it is possible to define it. We all have different viewpoints on what it is. And all it is is an ethical norm. I mean, who says it is a crime to steal or whatever. I do not disagree that some norm must exist, but that norm is very arbitrary.

For example, look at the differences between the justice in the old days and now. In time people gain new perspectives and with it comes a new interpretation for every aspect of a human and his social life.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#94 2013-10-19 09:59:45

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The only viewpoint that counts is the one the people in charge have.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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