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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I have found a way to get rid of the GF, but it introduces a nasty sum.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What is the sum?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Doesn't simplify things much...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yikes! Where did you get that from?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Doesn't matter.

It's really ugly!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Doesn't matter.

Hmmmm.

For one thing it is useless for computation.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Maybe it can be simplified further.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maybe it can not.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Maybe.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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But that will not help as much as you think.

Hi gAr;

Sorry, did not see you up there.

I think we can't approximate it using e^(5x), since we are using coefficients beyond the upper limit of the egf.

I agree, it did not work.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

No problem.

I couldn't find a continuous distribution to approximate it. It's doubtful that a simplification exists, CAS is failing to guess, what more is left?!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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what more is left?!

Pure dumb luck for me. They say out here, "I would rather be lucky than good!"

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes, I too must be lucky to find a formula for this!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Maybe this guy can get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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There still seems to be a problem with the pluses...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I am not following you. What pluses?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Look at post #2.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Why do you think there is something wrong with it? Can you find an example?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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No, no. Technical problems. The pluses are missing!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, work on it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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No. I mean that the LaTeX is not working again! Didn't MIF fix it?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hold on! Let me try.

It is working for me. What expression is giving you problems and post it in the thread where he will see it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

Have you seen the 2's and 5's problem? It seems like a tough one.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You mean the DD problem?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Be 34 it seems to.

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