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You are not logged in. #1 2013-02-18 13:14:37
InductionHi, I think i have found a way to use induction for integer set too (don't know if it was discovered before this post) by extending the axiom of induction we get "if S is a subset of Z and (a) 0 belongs to S,(b) for n belonging to S (n+1) belongs to S,(c)for n belonging to S (n-1) belongs to S ,then S=Z." if I'm wrong I hope others will correct me. #2 2013-02-18 13:25:46
Re: InductionI think (c) is unneccessary there, and the rest just represents the axiom of induction. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #3 2013-02-18 13:52:20
Re: InductionBy (c) i stated that -1,-2,-3,-4,... are in S,the general axiom doesn't state that. #4 2013-02-18 22:26:02
Re: InductionIt is necessary. This is the induction law for , not . Last edited by scientia (2013-02-18 22:36:12) #6 2013-02-18 23:41:08
Re: Induction
It looks fine to me. However proving stuff about integers is usually much more straightforward: first prove that the property holds for all non-negative integers, then show that it also holds for where is a non-negative integer.
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