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#51 2013-02-06 22:27:03

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

That is the point! It is one, I agree! But it is also .9999999999...

Do it term by term, it is

.9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 + .00009 + .000009 + ... +

obviously .99999999999... and you used the geometric sum to say it equals 1.


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#52 2013-02-06 22:38:27

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

There is no reason that that sum should be equal 0.999...


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#53 2013-02-06 22:40:52

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

There is no reason that that sum should be equal 0.999...

Please look at the preceding post again. That sum produces an endless bunch of nines! You said it was one because you used this formula

sort of shows that if we do not agree with .999999999... = 1, we have to give that up. I do not want to give it up. It works!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#54 2013-02-06 22:49:07

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

No, no. I disagree that that sum is equal to 0.999...


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#55 2013-02-06 22:52:21

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

.9 = .9

.9 + .09 = .99

.9 + .09 + .009 = .999

.9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 = .9999

.9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 + .00009 = .99999
.
.
.

looks to me like it agrees with .9999999...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#56 2013-02-06 22:54:10

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

I do not see 0.999... anywhere in there.


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#57 2013-02-06 22:56:15

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Okay, then in other words you do not agree with any other non terminating decimal?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#58 2013-02-06 22:57:44

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

No. I do not agree with non-terminating nines.


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#59 2013-02-06 22:59:03

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

How about non terminating threes?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#60 2013-02-06 23:00:43

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

They are okay.


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#61 2013-02-06 23:02:16

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Is
1 / 3 = .3333333333... ?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#62 2013-02-06 23:04:38

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Yes it is.


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#63 2013-02-06 23:05:46

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Then

3 ( 1 / 3 ) = 3 ( .33333333333...)

1 = .999999999999...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#64 2013-02-06 23:06:41

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Nope.

3*0.333... is equal to 1.


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#65 2013-02-06 23:08:22

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

I am not following you.

There is a difference between .333... and .333333333... and .333333333333333... ?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#66 2013-02-06 23:10:54

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

No, of course not. I am just saying that the product of 3 and non-terminating 3's is 1, and not 0.999...


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#67 2013-02-06 23:12:10

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

You do not think that

3 (.333333333333...)  = (.999999999999...) ?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#68 2013-02-06 23:13:35

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

No. because I think that the number on the right should be barred from mathematics.


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#69 2013-02-06 23:18:10

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Hmmmm...

So you are saying you like this

and this

but do not like this:


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#70 2013-02-06 23:25:15

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Yes.
1/9=0.111...
2/9=0.222...
3/9=0.333...
4/9=0.444...
5/9=0.555...
6/9=0.666...
7/9=0.777...
8/9=0.888...
9/9=1


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#71 2013-02-06 23:28:58

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Hohohoho! Thank you for that, I always knew you had a sense of humor and you have really uncorked it and sprayed me with champagne. Very good!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#72 2013-02-06 23:33:46

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Excuse me?


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#73 2013-02-06 23:36:37

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

I thought you were joking, sorry.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#74 2013-02-06 23:45:08

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Do you know what a devil's advocate is?


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#75 2013-02-06 23:47:23

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Re: 0^0 equals 1 or undefined?

Yes, it is someone who defends impossible positions to irk someone else. Someone who is so old that the slightest annoyance can kill him.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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