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You are not logged in. #226 20121228 09:00:34
Re: New mathematic on englishHow is that supposed to clear up anything when that was obviously written by you? Quoting yourself does not clear things up. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #227 20121228 09:04:42
Re: New mathematic on englishBob, "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #228 20121228 09:09:17
Re: New mathematic on englishI can understand the yellow part. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #229 20121228 09:22:40
Re: New mathematic on englisharea of red color "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #230 20121228 09:44:48
Re: New mathematic on englishSense of the Graf of function as lines in the Cartesian system of coordinates only one: at two parts, are other two areas. Point of graf of function divides the line which is derivative (xy)' quare S=xy at vertical: x'y and horizontal: y'x pieces. "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #231 20121228 09:48:13
Re: New mathematic on englishOK. This makes sense now. This is all understood. so So where is the error please? Bob You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #232 20121228 10:11:04
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Perfectly! The first sensible that I at you saw this! Green line: http://vladimir938.etoya.com/files/201 … 8.122.jpg is Do you agree? Last edited by 21122012 (20121228 10:27:33) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #233 20121228 10:54:54
Re: New mathematic on englishI do not understand this last part OK so far. And why should F' be the addition of these two lines anyway? Bob You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #234 20121228 11:15:27
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because Bob! Descartes decided to present a cube in the form of a rectangle: Understand? Look #152 drawing at the left. So are under construction on the plane and in space. These are two interpretations of the same process: Last edited by 21122012 (20121228 11:16:06) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #235 20121229 00:39:48
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I don't mind And is good for the product rule. But then it seems to fall apart. Your green line is the semiperimeter of the rectangle. Why should F' be the semiperimeter? I can think of no good reason. And the result you get for the horizontal line (2xo^2) isn't what you have on your diagram. You have defined this distance to be x0. What do you think this green line is? Bob You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #236 20121229 06:07:07
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It is the key moment for Structural Analysis. As soon as you will understand this moment then you will understand all the rest. It is necessary to stop. Everything is clear? "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #237 20121229 06:16:37
Re: New mathematic on englishYou are in danger of repeating your earlier mistake; the one that led to me withdrawing from this thread. If you won't answer my questions about what you are trying to explain, then I might as well give up. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #238 20121229 06:20:47
Re: New mathematic on englishYou are in vain so aggressive. To show that such the green line on graphics I have to show you its analog in geometry. I want to make it but gradually that we understood each other. If you refuse to watch my reasonings I won't be able to answer your question. "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #239 20121229 06:39:47
Re: New mathematic on englishBut I don't understand your reasoning. That is why I ask questions. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #240 20121229 07:14:47
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What in post 236 you don't understand? "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #241 20121229 08:21:19
Re: New mathematic on englishIt is you who do not understand. You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #242 20121229 08:47:45
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F' is not the semi perimeter, because Let's show the image of this dependence in a geometrical and graphic look. In a geometrical look this dependence will be expressed in the circle square with a variable radius: and in a graphic look in the form of a vertical piece of variable length: Because the circle and a piece  the elements which are strongly differing from each other, process of integration: will be represented in both cases differently. The given animation will help to compare each other elements geometrical and elements of graphic interpretation of processes of integration: Last edited by 21122012 (20121229 15:00:58) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #243 20121229 15:03:06
Re: New mathematic on englishBob bundy look this "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #244 20121230 07:34:25
Re: New mathematic on englishYou started this thread saying "one of the many errors of calculus". You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei #245 20121230 08:52:29
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If there are two theories and they in three moments contradict each other, each of two theories has the right yet these moments errors of other theory won't consider is found out what of theories is true. Correctness of any theory can be proved by only one way  result of experience. I made this experiment:
I didn't arrive here from Mars. That is written in references which you to me gave I I know not worse you. To me on Calculus of the teacher always put only the highest marks. I didn't ignore them but they in any way don't disprove my arguments THEY to THEM CONTRADICT as has to be in two contradicting theories.
Look how many thousand people participated in mathematics creation. And you want that I one replaced thousands. From me it is enough of that that I found mistakes and offered the correct direction. the rest will be done by other people. "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #246 20121230 12:51:46
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So the whole world is made up of 99% humanoid monkeys as you call them. I know a lot of people who share that opinion. Each one of them carefully leaves himself out of the 99%. You can not seriously hope to persuade people that you have just called monkeys. You say you do not come from Mars, I am not so sure. You wonder why you are bounced from forums. You call people monkeys and then can not understand their reaction towards you? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #247 20121230 13:16:31
Re: New mathematic on englishHere, as practically everywhere you confuse cause and effect. Me throw out from forums without understanding simple reasonings. Them don't accept only because they don't coincide with that that THEY got used to repeat. Therefore I draw a conclusion that if THEY can't have the thoughts but only to repeat strangers that they do that that call "repeat as a monkey". Anything personal only fact ascertaining! Last edited by 21122012 (20121230 13:23:18) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #248 20121230 23:36:49
Re: New mathematic on englishHmmmm, I do not see how you can ever progress relying solely on your input. Unless you are Isaac Newton there is and always will be many people smarter than you are. In your case, some of them are on this forum.
You have read every textbook? You know everything inside of them? A good textbook is something you hold on to for life. Studying it for life. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #249 20121231 01:41:50
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And even Isaac Newton himself admitted that there were people smarter than he was – giants on whose shoulders he stood. #250 20121231 01:48:26
Re: New mathematic on englishHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 