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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Who will be able to give me the irrefragable answers.

The question N1:

"What is the point (ordered pairs) of Graph of a function for the function (if each vertical line is the function value)?"

I will prompt:

Both top limits - are coordinates of this point. And its value is equal to

a tangent of angle of an inclination of a tangent (

).What is the point (ordered pairs: (

))of Graph of a function for the function: (

)(if each vertical line is the function value (

))?**"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"**

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi 21122012

I am confused by what you have asked.

Are you looking for help on the fundamental theorem of calculus?

Are you wanting to know A(x) in my diagram?

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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bob bundy wrote:

hi 21122012

I am confused by what you have asked.

Are you looking for help on the fundamental theorem of calculus?

Are you wanting to know A(x) in my diagram?

Bob

No!

I want to have the answer to a question: what is the point

for function

You understand?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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What are x_0 and y_0?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Next question?

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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anonimnystefy wrote:

What are x_0 and y_0?

Look "Visualisation" in link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_by_parts

You understand???!!!

What is ordinate and abscissa?

You understand:

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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bob bundy wrote:

Next question?

Bob

You wrote everything correctly but a question didn't answer.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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You should really explain the notation

and .Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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but a question didn't answer.

I thought I did answer a question.

If it wasn't the question you were asking, then you will have to re-phrase your question.

Bob

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**scientia****Member**- Registered: 2009-11-13
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21122012 wrote:

bob bundy wrote:Next question?

Bob

You wrote everything correctly but a question didn't answer.

Is that the way you want to see your "answer" being written?

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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anonimnystefy wrote:

You should really explain the notation

and .

Well!!!

It proves that VTSUALISATION is my development!!!!

Look on Visualisation:

You understand?!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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No, not really.

What is [x_1]?

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scientia wrote:

21122012 wrote:bob bundy wrote:Next question?

Bob

You wrote everything correctly but a question didn't answer.

Is that the way you want to see your "answer" being written?

That you write to me same. I am not an idiot and I understand that you write. I am itself I know. Read a question and answer it.

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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anonimnystefy wrote:

No, not really.

What is [x_1]?

[x_1] is piece on the OX axis with a length:

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Read a question and answer it.

Please write a question.

In Russian, perhaps, so we can translate it correctly.

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Understand that you explain me what role function for a point of GRAF plays. And I ask what role a point of the GRAF plays for function. You understand a difference?

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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bob bundy wrote:

Read a question and answer it.

Please write a question.

In Russian, perhaps, so we can translate it correctly.

Bob

Вы пишете мне объяснение какую роль играет функция для точки графика функции. Функция определяет ординату точки. Это понятно. Теперь объясните мне какое вообще отношение к функции имеет точка графика функции?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Here is a rough translation (luckily, Serbian and Russian are very much alike):

You write to me the explanation of the role of the function for a point of the graph. The function determines the ordinate of the point. That is clear. Now explain to me what general relation does the point of the graph have to the function.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Thanks Stefy,

That is very helpful. The on-line translators (I tried three) all gave goobledegook.

But I still don't know what he is asking for. Have you any idea?

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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You write to me the explanation of the role of the function for a point of the graph. The function determines the ordinate of the point. That is clear. Now explain to me what relation does the point of the graph have to the function.

Yes! It's true!

Look this:

http://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/12/key-11.jpg

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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I have looked at your picture.

It makes no sense to me.

Please start at the beginning.

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Circle - the geometrical point

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Hi Bob

You're welcome.

I think what he wants is interpolation...

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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21122012 wrote:

Circle - the geometrical point

This is your beginning ???

You want a circle with radius = zero ?

I cannot see this circle. It is too small.

But I will imagine it.

Please go on to lesson 2.

Bob

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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You don't see, but sees a tangent of angle of an inclination of a tangent to the Graph of a function. Ask it, he will tell you about each point of the Graph of a function.

Genes and molecules too it isn't visible but for this purpose there is an imagination

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