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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I meant, we can discuss the method of solving that problen over there.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I would discuss it with you in a hot air balloon circling the air in under 80 days.

I meant learning the other means. gAr and I have been going over tons of problems just like that one and have been trying to refine our weapons for solving them.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hmmm... I don't think I own a hot air baloon...

And handling weapons without a lisence is illegal, so you better watch out!

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You are right I might accidentally shoot down some of those balloons that are circling the earth.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It would be nice if it were only baloons they are circling the Earth in...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, it would be wouldn't it?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**New Problem:**

**A player deals out one card at a time and then replaces it in the deck and reshuffles. If he does this 7 times what is the probability that all 4 suits have shown up?**

**A says) Probability is so easy. The probability is 1 of course.**

**B says) How do you figure that, I am getting...**

**C says) 1 it is, I just ran a simulation and it happened every time. Or almost every time.**

**D says) What happened?**

**E says) C, wouldn't it have to happen every time for the probability to be 1?**

**A says) It was probably round off error. Those blasted computers can't even do the simplest problem.**

**Can you answer the question?**

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi

I am getting

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

My simulation agreed with my answer, did you try one as well?

Hi bobbym,

Now I'm worried!

Nevermind, I did not replace the cards, I'll try again.

*Last edited by gAr (2012-11-23 05:59:53)*

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Did you have it with replacement?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

With replacement, my simulation is agreeing with your answers.

It's late here, so I'll try to be back tomorrow.

Thanks for your answers, I'll read carefully before answering next time!

See you guys, have a nice time..

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Thanks for verifying it. Hope to see more of you soon. Have a good night.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr and anonimnystefy;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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The problem with replacement was trickier than without replacement.

It took me much more time to figure it out!

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Yes, three of us worked on it and had the same reaction. It took more time than I expected it to.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes, and it's a nice problem by the way. Thanks!

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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One that makes you work very hard is always a good one. Thanks for working on it.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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No problem, I hope to find more time after a couple of weeks.

See you soon!

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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