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#876 2012-09-23 21:01:32

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,

I think so. How are you today?


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#877 2012-09-23 21:03:34

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Tired. Had a long day.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#878 2012-09-23 21:06:08

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I see, take some rest.
See you later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#879 2012-09-23 21:06:37

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Thanks, will do. See you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#880 2012-09-23 23:27:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-09-23 23:27:39)


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#881 2012-09-23 23:42:02

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#882 2012-09-23 23:44:58

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Hi bobbym


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#883 2012-09-23 23:59:21

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#884 2012-09-24 04:40:21

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Hi bobbym

I have an idea, but it is too complicated...


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#885 2012-09-24 05:00:41

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Don't you mean too baffling?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#886 2012-09-24 05:05:59

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No, I mean complicated.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#887 2012-09-24 06:23:31

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Any closer to the answer?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#888 2012-09-24 06:26:18

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I haven't really started working on it.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#889 2012-09-24 06:30:50

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I am making progress on it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#890 2012-09-24 07:29:38

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What kind of progress?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#891 2012-09-24 07:34:37

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I am so close to the answer I can taste and smell blood. Math blood!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#892 2012-09-24 07:41:16

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Yuck! Be careful not to get stains on your clothes, though.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#893 2012-09-24 07:47:36

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Math blood is green and goes with my wardrobe.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#894 2012-09-24 08:00:39

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Great, then.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#895 2012-09-24 08:04:16

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#896 2012-09-24 09:15:53

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How'd you get that?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#897 2012-09-24 09:18:33

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By dint of torturous effort. There is probably an easier way, why don't you try the problem?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#898 2012-09-26 02:55:49

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Hi Bobby,

I used Geogebra for my solution...to 15 decimal places (see answer in cell B24 in the image).

I hadn't used their spreadsheet before. A nice feature is that you can link cell entries to the results on the main page, enabling automatic spreadsheet updating to reflect changes in drawings.


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#899 2012-09-26 03:03:50

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Hi phrontister;

Very good work with Geogebra! Well done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#900 2012-09-26 03:07:38

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Do you know how to shade the segments? I couldn't see how to do it.


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