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#826 2012-09-18 10:25:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;

I am not getting that b?a is  at 2.92 is less than at b/a at 0.32.... But also 2.92 is not a maximum value either.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#827 2012-09-18 23:50:49

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,

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Last edited by gAr (2012-09-19 00:00:52)


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#828 2012-09-19 01:02:46

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr


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#829 2012-09-19 02:28:32

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr and anonimnystefy;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#830 2012-09-19 02:31:13

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#831 2012-09-19 02:38:34

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Re: Bafflers?

Glad you enjoyed it. You solved it analytically?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#832 2012-09-19 02:39:10

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Re: Bafflers?

Very much so.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#833 2012-09-19 02:40:47

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Re: Bafflers?

Hmmm. How about posting it?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#834 2012-09-19 02:56:36

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Re: Bafflers?

Sure.


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#835 2012-09-19 03:02:13

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#836 2012-09-19 03:11:17

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#837 2012-09-19 03:15:09

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Re: Bafflers?

Do you know how to turn your approximate answer into an exact expression?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#838 2012-09-19 03:15:58

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Re: Bafflers?

Depends on what kind of answer it is. Why?

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-09-19 03:16:10)


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#839 2012-09-19 03:27:24

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Re: Bafflers?

This x coordinate and the maximum do you know how to get an exact answer (possibly)? In other words, you have a floating point answer, it is an approximation, we would like to see no decimals.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#840 2012-09-19 03:44:34

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Re: Bafflers?

PSLQ maybe...?


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#841 2012-09-19 03:52:55

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Re: Bafflers?

That is one way. Yours or somebody else's?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#842 2012-09-19 07:56:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Mine or somebody else's what?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#843 2012-09-19 19:08:18

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Re: Bafflers?

To guess at a constant using a PSLQ you need a vector that contains the constants. If it isn't large enough then it will not guess the constant. You can make your vector up filling it with constants or you can use one that is ready made and has millions of constants.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#844 2012-09-20 22:04:28

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Re: Bafflers?

New Problem:

If we have the curve

and the points A(8,8+2√ (2)), B(8,0) and C(0,0) see the diagram.

We need to have two triangles put under the curve and bounded by the x axis, y axis and x = 8. The red and blue triangles are examples.

Where on the curve do we need to place D so that the triangles have equal area? Just one other thing, we need avery accurate answer for D's coordinates. It must be accurate to 20 decimal places or more.

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#845 2012-09-21 04:23:27

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-09-21 04:23:35)


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#846 2012-09-21 04:47:54

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi anonimnystefy;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#847 2012-09-21 04:50:14

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#848 2012-09-21 04:51:29

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#849 2012-09-21 11:15:29

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#850 2012-09-21 11:18:15

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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