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#1 2012-08-18 17:38:21

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Social Engineering toolkit

Has anyone over here downloaded the Social Engineering Toolkit?
If yes, please tell me its download size
It is available from svn co http://svn.trustedsec.com/social … olkit set/


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#2 2012-08-18 19:45:26

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Re: Social Engineering toolkit

Hi Agnishom;

I could check the download size for you but that link is not working for me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#3 2012-08-22 01:13:02

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Re: Social Engineering toolkit

Thank You smile
The link should work through subversion
Do you have subversion installed in your PC?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#4 2012-08-22 03:29:08

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Hi Agnishom;

I am sorry but that is not installed on my machine.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#5 2012-08-22 15:33:40

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Re: Social Engineering toolkit

Would you?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#6 2012-08-22 16:04:34

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Hi Agnishom;

I am afraid I would not and here are my reasons.

1)Security, since you are interested in it you should understand. Windoze is the mainstay of the world but it is a very poor operating system. The people who designed it placed many back doors into the OS. This they claimed was so Bill could work efficiently with law enforcement.

Of course this was and is a joke. The truth is they sell these backdoors to whomever will pay him. In short he prostitutes his OS.

This disgusting practice can be defeated and a measure of privacy obtained by running a leaner, stripped down version of the OS. Unfortunately it also means having a small core of running programs that I trust. Subversion and CVS do not inspire my trust.

You are a bright young man. A promising one too. I feel you are a good guy. Therefore I must caution you about the SET.

Although the designers strenuously suggest that it be used only for penetration testing it seems to me that is sometimes just a cover for those who wish to learn the techniques of hacking. In other words that knowledge can be used for darker purposes.

Everyone who has such skill is tempted to use the knowledge in a way that can lead to trouble. Like knowing about napalm this might be one bit of knowledge that is best left unknown.

I believe that you will make a fine mathematician or programmer some day. I know you will do the right thing.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#7 2012-08-23 02:17:53

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Re: Social Engineering toolkit

I think you are quite correct

You said most people who have hacking skills get tempted to make a dark use of it; I must agree that its true.
I don't know a lot of this techniques but I used some of my knowledge to do a hacking (which I thought that was a revenge from our side for being tortured by the person I am hacking[I regret it now however]). That person now thinks that I have hacked her because I am the only one with such knowledge. But she can't have a way to prove it.
But that was a really important lesson in my life because I realised that I should not do such things

However, a lot of people ask me to do Hackings for them and generally I turn down those requests.
Recently, one of my closest friends devised a new method for turning down those requests and to scare them away. Would you like to hear it?

Do you really think that I should really not make the use of SET?
BTW What is Napalm?

BTW May be I should not have said this but ..... Cyber Security is a lot loose in our country than in yours. Yet I am aware of the dangers

Last edited by Agnishom (2012-08-23 03:20:35)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#8 2012-08-23 04:00:35

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Hi;

Would you like to hear it?

Yes if you like to tell.

Do you really think that I should really not make the use of SET?

Yes, I really do believe that once you have learned enough to defend yourself you are done.

Cyber Security is a lot loose in our country than in yours.

I know that in some other countries the laws are less and in some others the laws are more. Banks are supplying the money and my country the soldiers so that the UN may create a "New World." This is happening quietly. Soon those who remain will all live in one world. There will be one set of laws, all will obey. The looseness you speak of will be gone.

Yet I am aware of the dangers

I know and you do not need a lecture from me.

Napalm is a substance that when added to gasoline causes it to gel and thicken. It sticks to human skin and is used in flamethrowers and firebombs.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#9 2012-08-23 15:12:26

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Why is it dangerous for the common people like me to know about Napalm? I do not own a laboratory that I would make some of it!


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#10 2012-08-23 18:01:18

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Hi;

Supposedly it can be made from common household items. A technique that if true should not be common knowledge.

In my day the fascination was with chemistry ( their were no desktops or laptops ). Kids were given chemistry sets and they began to play. My friend Richard and I were of equal ability. We were soon being approached for "jobs" by street gangsters wanting to make illegal substances. He said yes, I said no, he did not make it to his 22 birthday.

It wasn't that I was wiser than him. I was nearly killed 3 times experimenting with line voltage. I was nearly asphyxiated when I generated chlorine gas and it escaped into the room. It was just that I was not much of social person or a mixer and he was.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#11 2012-08-24 01:12:41

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You must have had a great childhood!

When you talk about "illegal substances", do you mean explosives?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#12 2012-08-24 02:23:57

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Hi;

do you mean explosives

Drugs.

You must have had a great childhood!

It wasn't dull.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#13 2012-08-24 02:28:17

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When you say: "It wasn't dull."
Do you mean it wasn't bright either?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#14 2012-08-24 02:39:24

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People have a strange view of America. They think it is like the movies.

It depends on what you mean as "bright." My country is wasteful. It not only wastes energy but it is wasteful of people.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#15 2012-08-24 03:25:51

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I don't watch a lot of films but sometimes I only pretend to do so wink


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#16 2012-08-24 03:28:41

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Are you daydreaming while watching them?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#17 2012-08-24 15:36:12

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means???


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#18 2012-08-24 19:16:43

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Hi;

To quote Wikipedia:

Daydreaming is a short-term detachment from one's immediate surroundings, during which a person's contact with reality is blurred and partially substituted by a visionary fantasy, especially one of happy, pleasant thoughts, hopes or ambitions, imagined as coming to pass, and experienced while awake.

I do it quite a bit.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#19 2012-08-24 19:53:24

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Well, I also do it.
But how is it related to the films?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#20 2012-08-24 20:02:52

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but sometimes I only pretend to do so

Thought you might be daydreaming while watching them. You can be staring at it but the mind can be very far away.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#21 2012-08-24 20:15:42

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I appreciate your humour.

but sometimes I only pretend to do so

I mean I don't watch a lot of them but only tell others that I have done


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#22 2012-08-24 20:25:06

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Oh sorry, I misunderstood.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#23 2012-08-24 20:51:40

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My Friends trick:
When someone tells me to do any hacking, I tell him to be online sometime
He becomes online sometime and pings me telling that
I act as if I am serious and continue the Chatting for a few planks
Then I tell him that I am Agnishom's father and give a long lecture about Privacy and etc
If he asks me what I am doing here, I would tell "Checking out my son's Photos"

Its quite amusing, isn't it?

I have not i implemented it yet but he has


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#24 2012-08-24 21:09:14

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Hi;

Only if the lecture is really stern.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#25 2012-08-25 00:16:21

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OK I would give some time in preparing it


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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