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## #226 2012-07-14 06:53:52

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### Re: PSLQ and LLL?

In M N[Pi,100] means pi to 100 digits.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #227 2012-07-14 06:54:49

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### Re: PSLQ and LLL?

Ahhhh... Ok.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #228 2012-07-14 06:58:13

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### Re: PSLQ and LLL?

#### Harry Stamfer wrote:

I am only the best because I work with the best.

You should be trying to implement that routine in Maxima.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #229 2012-07-14 07:06:50

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We have already tried that. but haven't finished.

Code so far:

#### Code:

```pslq(l,dig) := block(
{a},
a : diagmatrix(length(l),1)),
)```

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #230 2012-07-14 07:17:58

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You have much work to do.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #231 2012-07-14 07:27:16

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Yup. Where did you say l say the vector l should be added relative to the matrix?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #232 2012-07-14 07:32:57

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #233 2012-07-14 07:53:42

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Where do we add the vector l to the matrix a? On which side of tthe matrix?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #234 2012-07-14 07:55:11

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What line are you working on?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #235 2012-07-14 07:56:32

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### Re: PSLQ and LLL?

The second one. The one with Append. I want to make sure my function is doing what it is supposed to.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #236 2012-07-14 08:09:29

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Hi;

Append[IdentityMatrix[3],{1,2,3}]

Notice where the [1,2,3] vector went.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #237 2012-07-14 08:10:47

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Okay.

Btw, why are you never around at 1AM to 7AM CET?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #238 2012-07-14 08:19:30

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You mean Pacific time 2 pm to 10 pm. I was always here at that time but am currently having my brother over and we eat and discuss mathematics and things.

Of course that is not an ironclad rule. It is 3:18 pm and I am here.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #239 2012-07-14 08:32:26

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All the way from 4-10 PM?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #240 2012-07-14 08:34:33

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Well because you should be in bed at that time. Do you want me to set a bad example by keeping you up?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #241 2012-07-14 08:44:56

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I am up at that time whether you are there or not, so...

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The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #242 2012-07-14 08:51:16

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Maybe, but I am not contributing to it.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #243 2012-07-14 08:54:15

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You wouldn't be contributing even if you posted at that time.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #244 2012-07-14 08:55:54

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Youngsters need their sleep time. Else they get bags under their eyes and start to look like Bela Lugosi. Older people need much less sleep. They already look like Bela Lugosi.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #245 2012-07-14 08:59:48

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You can't make me do either- stay awake or go to sleep.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #246 2012-07-14 09:03:18

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No one is making you but if there is nothing to do you will nod off. You are fighting it right now.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #247 2012-07-14 09:19:26

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I am not. Currently I am having a math discussion on FB and a discussion with you here. When both stop, I will begin reading some PDF files on numerical analysis and possibly read a few chapters of a manga.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #248 2012-07-14 09:23:13

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Hmmm. Sounds like someone I know. He would do most of that.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #249 2012-07-14 09:27:45

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Who is that?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #250 2012-07-14 09:29:19

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A person of great ability and little sense.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.