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#476 2012-05-17 09:40:17

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Re: Bafflers?

You have not been doing your required reading.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic … 55#p219855


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#477 2012-05-17 09:45:46

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Re: Bafflers?

I do not visit that thread any longer. Brings back bad memories.

Triangular arrays? And can you give an example of such an unsolvable problem that you app creates?


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#478 2012-05-17 09:47:45

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Re: Bafflers?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#479 2012-05-17 09:54:58

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Re: Bafflers?

Oh that! But phrontister solved that!


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#480 2012-05-17 09:57:22

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Re: Bafflers?

Well, for the moment he has...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#481 2012-05-17 10:03:33

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Re: Bafflers?

So,the purpose of your app has failed? Or am I not noticing something?

Either way,I am looking at the hyperoperations material on wiki. Do you have any problems on that subject?


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#482 2012-05-17 10:06:36

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Re: Bafflers?

No, the app was a stunning success.

A hyper what?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#483 2012-05-17 10:13:22

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Re: Bafflers?

How's it a success if it was designed to create unsolvable problems?

Hyperoperations.


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#484 2012-05-17 10:14:28

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Re: Bafflers?

Only one person solved them. Yes?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#485 2012-05-17 10:21:01

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Re: Bafflers?

Yes. Definition of unsolvable (by me):

There exists an element (which we will call man) from the set P (people) such that the problem B(n) is less than the knowledge of the element man.

By this definition,your problem is not unsolvable,thus it is solvable.Q.E.D.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-05-17 10:21:21)


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#486 2012-05-17 10:24:47

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Re: Bafflers?

Hmmmm. But your proof only holds for the set called man. Shall we examine how he is solving them?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#487 2012-05-17 10:27:36

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Re: Bafflers?

The property knowledge of the element man is not closed under the set P. It extends to the set C (computers)


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#488 2012-05-17 10:29:54

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Re: Bafflers?

That is extraneous. There are only a few ways to solve them.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#489 2012-05-17 10:33:20

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Re: Bafflers?

But my definition and proof hold.


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#490 2012-05-17 10:36:57

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Re: Bafflers?

It may or may not hold. The point is, the app is an amazing success. Only he can do them. For now that is...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#491 2012-05-17 10:42:21

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Re: Bafflers?

Yes,the app is wonderful. I will try my luck against one of them soon.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#492 2012-05-17 10:50:07

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Re: Bafflers?

I will see you later, I have a call coming in.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#493 2012-05-17 10:57:27

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Re: Bafflers?

Ok,see you.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#494 2012-05-17 12:25:53

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Re: Bafflers?

Yes,the app is wonderful.

You should know I was joking.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#495 2012-05-17 13:20:56

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Re: Bafflers?

That might and might not be sarcasm.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#496 2012-05-17 15:10:50

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Re: Bafflers?

Hmmmm. But it is a great app.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#497 2012-05-18 03:10:59

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,


Find the general term of the sequence and the 100th term.

2,4,5,7,8,9,11,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,...


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

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#498 2012-05-18 04:10:36

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Re: Bafflers?

New Question:

A person has a fair die, a fair coin and a 4 color spinner. The spinner has sections marked 1,2,4 and 8. Each with a probability of 1 / 4.

He throws the die and whatever number comes up he flips the coin that many times. He spins the spinner as many times as heads comes up from all the coin flips.What is the probability that the sum of the spinners spins is less than 5?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#499 2012-05-18 07:43:13

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#500 2012-05-18 10:08:55

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Re: Bafflers?

Did you look at his answer for the second problem?

Btw,I bought a 4 by 4 by 4 Rubik's cube. It is very nice. Always wanted oje. Next on my list is 5 by 5 by 5.


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