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#26 2012-05-14 21:28:30
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Re: Area of Polygon by Drawing
Hi MIF;
Did not see you up there. My way is not always reliable. Sometimes it has the wrong sign!
Hi anonimnystefy;
work for complex polys?
I tend to doubt it.
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#27 2012-05-14 21:30:33
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Hi bobbym
1) Just get the absolute value.
2) What does the wiki article on the shoelace formula say about the complex polys?
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#28 2012-05-14 21:34:08
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1) Just get the absolute value.
That is where I have a problem. Interpreting area as a real thing and mathematically. If the polygon is in the 3rd quadrant isn't the area negative?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#29 2012-05-14 21:37:32
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It isn't.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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#30 2012-05-14 21:53:34
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Yes, his applet is showing that. It makes sense that area should be invariant under a simple translation.
Thanks MIF for the nice app.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#31 2012-05-14 22:01:30
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Yes,the app is wonderful. Just gonna try finding a formula for the complex polys.
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#32 2012-05-14 22:07:20
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I do not think there is one.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#33 2012-05-14 22:08:07
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I don't agree.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#34 2012-05-14 22:14:09
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It seems and this is a quote:
The area of a self-intersecting polygon can be defined in two different ways, each of which gives a different answer:
No unique answer!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#35 2012-05-14 22:16:52
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What are the two ways?
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#36 2012-05-14 22:20:09
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That is just theory from Wikipedia and probably kaboobly doo.
There is a formula, or at least he claims there is!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#37 2012-05-14 22:21:42
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Why are you quoting kaboobly doo?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#38 2012-05-14 22:28:31
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You like theory.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#39 2012-05-14 22:30:39
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Not always true.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#40 2012-05-15 07:09:07
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Area is positive when going clockwise, but just use absolute value anyway.
I have a page describing it from a geometric point of view: Area of Irregular Polygons
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#41 2012-05-15 07:15:37
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I don't see negative values of area on that page.And the area can be negative only from the analytic point of view.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#42 2012-05-15 07:17:45
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Thanks guys. I will look at the page now.
Nice method MIF! I did not know that.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#43 2012-05-28 02:45:43
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Sweet I just found this area app!! It is terrific and can be used
for checking acreage of property too!! I think an acre is 43540 or 43640 or 42540 or something like that sq. feet, 208 by 209 feet or so.
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#44 2012-05-28 02:46:50
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Oh, 43560 it seems actually.
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