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#1 2012-05-11 04:55:54

bobbym
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Down the rows and colums game.

Hi;

Ever play the biggest column game? It is easy. Here are the rules. You are given a triangular array of numbers.1 number per row  is chosen so that when you add them they have the largest possible sum. You can use numbers diagonally right or left of the preceeding number. The little pyramid is an example. Can you do the big one?

View Image: 2012-05-11_095428.gif View Image: problem.gif

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#2 2012-05-11 05:11:16

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

I remember this question from before,but I don't know where you posted it.Can programs be used?


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#3 2012-05-11 05:18:36

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi;

I do not think I have ever posted it before. Of course programs can be used.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#4 2012-05-11 22:55:26

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi Bobby,

I think I got it:

Btw, how do I hide an image?

View Image: Down the rows & columns.png

Last edited by phrontister (2012-05-11 23:10:10)


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#5 2012-05-11 23:04:51

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi phro

Try posting it somewhere and than hide it as an img tag.


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#6 2012-05-11 23:09:31

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi phrontister;

I will have to delete the entire post to hide it. You are correct!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#7 2012-05-11 23:10:58

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

I replaced the image with a blip.


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#8 2012-05-11 23:12:06

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Blip it. That did it. Anyway, you are correct!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#9 2012-05-11 23:18:21

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Last edited by phrontister (2012-05-11 23:20:44)


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#10 2012-05-11 23:20:06

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Just a test:


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#11 2012-05-11 23:23:10

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi phrontister;

You have the correct answer.

Deleting images from posts is a nasty business.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#12 2012-05-11 23:30:01

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi Bobby,

Yes...I started this thread about that. You've probably read it.

I think I'm quite happy with the 2-step access to my image in post #9, although stefy's 1-step method is good too.


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#13 2012-05-11 23:31:38

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Actually,I linked to your image with the img tag.


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#14 2012-05-11 23:37:08

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Well if everyone is happy, then it is my job to make you unhappy with another puzzle.

View Image: 2012-05-11_095428.gif

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#15 2012-05-11 23:38:18

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Yes, stefy, I saw that.

I think that because this is a graphic answer I prefer my 2-step option to handle the case of someone inadvertently clicking the hide button and seeing the answer - which imprints (though roughly) in the brain instantly - and might spoil the game for that person.

Last edited by phrontister (2012-05-11 23:38:46)


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#16 2012-05-11 23:47:01

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

But,isn't the hide tag only for those who want to know the answer? Why would anyone else click it?


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#17 2012-05-11 23:48:31

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

and might spoil the game for that person.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#18 2012-05-11 23:59:15

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

True, stefy, but I used the word 'inadvertently' deliberately to cover all bases.


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#19 2012-05-12 00:28:24

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

I don't know how many people would accidentally click on a hide tag that says "solution" or "answer".


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#20 2012-05-12 01:32:45

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi stefy,

I want to give a second chance to that one person in the whole wide world who, while (notice the alliteration) sitting drowsily in front of his computer way past his bed time, 'inadvertently' clicked the box and to his dismay saw the answer displayed in all its glory.

Or maybe his wife walked into his study where, instead of doing the work he'd promised to do, he was on this MIF page and panicked by clicking the 'hide' button instead of the 'Close' button on the browser, and then saw my answer by mistake.

Or...

One day such a person will write to me out of gratitude and thank me for my foresight in providing a 2-step access...and then it will have been all worthwhile.

I'm now waiting for that moment...

Still waiting...

Still waiting...


"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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#21 2012-05-12 01:38:28

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Thank you for the 2-step access to your solution,phro.


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#22 2012-05-12 02:05:41

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Thanks, stefy...you're welcome. smile

Hi Bobby,

Last edited by phrontister (2012-05-12 02:58:45)


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#23 2012-05-12 04:55:46

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi phrontister;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#24 2012-05-16 16:26:11

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

New format:

Can you find the smallest array of numbers?
Same rules as post #1.

For an example, the small pyramid has an answer of 8,6,8,6. That is the smallest.

View Image: large.gif View Image: small.gif

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#25 2012-05-17 02:28:02

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Re: Down the rows and colums game.

Hi Bobby,


"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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