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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hide it,please!And let me check if it is correct.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you check yet.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I think the general term is good. I cannot say that for tge rec formuka. Did you check it?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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They are all correct. The problem is they are sometime shifted.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes,all of those are correct. I missed the minus sign in your rec equation. Good job,bobbym!

May I ask how you derived the general formula?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Square root of 12.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Wow,you explained it to such detail! I understand it perfectly.

Joke aside,what do you mean-square root if 2?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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We had this discussion in another thread. I tried to explain it then but I do not think I did. Remember the difference between a hand problem and a computer one?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes,I do.

I would like you to explain what that swquence has with sthat aquare root of 12.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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If I posted

would you ask how I got it?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Oooh,so you solved it by a computer!

I will try to get an algebraic method tomorrow.if I get anything,I will post it.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There are methods to derive them but they are tedious and error prone.

The rule is whenever you learn a technique you immediately teach your computer

how to do it too. Then from that point on you get perfect answers at much higher speeds.

Those are all one line commands in M.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I got the answer by using GFs.

Could you maybe show me next weekend how to write a program for something like this in Maxima?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I am not sure if I can write something in Maxima.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Well,I am as clueless as you so maybe we can use an online tutorial or something.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Next week is far awy. First I have to remember the algorithm myself.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Your typing is getting worse.

Can you write the algorithm down or post it here?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sometimes I do not have the full usage of my left hand.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I would ask why,but it could and would turn into chatting.

Did you write down your algorithm?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There are two or three bobbym's. Sometimes I do not know whatb the other two are doing or why.

See you in a bit. Chore time!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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No,there is only one bobbym. Otherwise the world would crumble to pieces. So you didn't write down the algorithm yet.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

No, what I did was write it for a machine whose language I no longer understand.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Doesn't matter. I think I can decode it.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That won't matter If I can not.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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