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#26 2012-04-11 00:31:05

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Re: The RRA

What strange things? What condition can be broken here?


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#27 2012-04-11 00:33:03

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Re: The RRA

Apparently the RRA works by using 1/2 of the original series. This series already decreases by a factor of 1/2.


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#28 2012-04-11 00:35:57

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How do you mean 1/2 of the original series?


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#29 2012-04-11 00:38:20

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#30 2012-04-11 00:45:03

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Oh that! Yes,I understand that now.

Just one question.Why do you use a minus after the ellipsis?


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#31 2012-04-11 00:49:43

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That is to show that a positive term is followed by a negative one.


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#32 2012-04-11 00:54:43

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That is an unusual notation.Or maybe I just haven't seen it before.


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#33 2012-04-11 00:56:29

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I see it for alternating series. It is better in my opinion than +...


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I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#34 2012-04-11 00:58:21

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But it doesn't make any sense if you show it to somebody who has never seen that notation before and doesn't use it.

Back to the matter at hand...Any other series?Or do you still want to discuss this one?


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#35 2012-04-11 01:03:25

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How many terms are required for 15 digit accuracy and can you reduce that?


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#36 2012-04-11 01:09:49

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Hi bobbym

The first approximation is 31 terms.Let me do RRA on it.


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#37 2012-04-11 01:22:16

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hi bobbym

With RRA we get a bigger approximation.Is that supposed to happen? Is that why you gave me this one?


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#38 2012-04-11 01:24:40

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It is what I expected to happen.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#39 2012-04-11 01:26:46

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Whew! Btw I just got the results.It's 32 or 33 terms.Something like that.

Can you now explain what happened there?


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#40 2012-04-11 01:27:55

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Re: The RRA

The series is decreasing by a power of 3, the acceleration is a power of 2 so it is naturally slower.


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I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#41 2012-04-11 01:30:40

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Oooh...So that's what you said to be careful about.


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#42 2012-04-11 01:41:38

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10 digits of accuracy required.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#43 2012-04-11 01:58:04

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Hi bobbym

First approximation is 3684 terms.I will try applying RRA now.


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#44 2012-04-11 02:04:33

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That is too many.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#45 2012-04-11 02:05:46

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Hi bobbym

Either way,using RRA I got 621.


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#46 2012-04-11 02:19:08

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Hi;

Your estimates are too high I am getting 400 with the first RRA.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#47 2012-04-11 02:24:44

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hi bobbym

Could you tell me what is wrong?

Wolfram Input


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#48 2012-04-11 02:27:13

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First, you solved for the original equation wrong.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#49 2012-04-11 02:32:22

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hi bobbym

Wolfram Input(2)


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#50 2012-04-11 02:41:24

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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