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#51 2012-03-04 11:14:44
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Re: Bafflers?
I would just stick it into the formula I get when I solve the recursion.
The fun way by me is the solving recursion one.maybe there's been a misunderstanding.
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#52 2012-03-04 11:16:32
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Solving the recursion is fun. Getting it, is more fun.
Now, the important question. Since you knew enough math to solve the problem why did you need help?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#53 2012-03-04 11:17:53
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Hi bobbym
I couldn't get the numbers right.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#54 2012-03-04 11:19:38
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Okay, are you clear on it now?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#55 2012-03-04 11:24:10
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I think I am.When can we expect the next problem?
Btw, these are more fun when I actually know how to solve them.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#56 2012-03-04 11:27:26
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The next one comes as soon as I solve it.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#57 2012-03-04 11:29:47
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Hi bobbym
ok.I really hope that it well be soon because these problems really look easier for now.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#58 2012-03-04 11:31:52
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You are not thinking competitively. Here is a good rule of thumb. If ole m did the problem how tough can it be?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#59 2012-03-04 11:39:22
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Hi bobbym
If I understood you correctly than your reasoning isn't correct.You can solve much harder problems than I can.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#60 2012-03-04 11:41:41
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Nope! The first step in passing someone else, is believing that you can.
Wyatt Earp wrote:
I never saw a gunfighter so fast he lived to celebrate his 35th birthday.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#61 2012-03-04 11:44:54
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Just believing won't make it true.We don't need another Tee.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#62 2012-03-04 11:49:11
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But what if it is true? Knowledge can lead to problems. Some things are better when they are unknown.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#63 2012-03-04 11:53:24
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Yes, to that I agree, but that's just the general case.It doesn't apply to mathematics.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#64 2012-03-04 11:56:15
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It applies to everything:
A former world champion wrote:
Overconfidence is a serious weakness. Lack of confidence is death.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#65 2012-03-04 11:59:43
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Not mathematics.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#66 2012-03-04 12:04:23
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Yes, but you use terms that have no definition in mathematics. What is a harder problem? What is an easy one?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#67 2012-03-04 12:12:56
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They use more complex mathematic tools.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#68 2012-03-04 12:15:58
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Men put ratings on things like more complex. They are often wrong. Math is the last field where a person can find his own way. As you should know they teach NCr's to high school students. They teach generating functions to graduate students. It should be the other way around.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#69 2012-03-04 20:23:03
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Hi bobbym
That its kinda weird but I would never rate it that way.I mean, it's obvious that adding naturals is less complex than multiplying octonions and sedenions.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#70 2012-03-04 21:54:17
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But I do not use complex methods. I always try the simplest ideas.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#71 2012-03-05 00:57:44
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Hi bobbym
I wasn't talking about you personally.It's just that some problems use some things I don't know how to practically use yet. GFs for example.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#72 2012-03-05 00:59:53
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You were already taught more than enough to use GF's more effectively than NCr's and NPr's.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#73 2012-03-05 01:02:46
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NCr's?
and I don't know how to use them because I don't know how to set up a GF for a given problem.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#74 2012-03-05 01:06:28
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Ever seen these?
That is traditional method. Many people can not get it. Others hate it. The GF's are just Taylor series without the mess of proving this or that convergence. They all end up being mere polynomial multiplication.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on.
#75 2012-03-05 01:11:45
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Hi bobbym
I've seen them.We study them at school. Most problem are taught to be done using them.
Could you show me an example of an easier problem done using GF's so I get the picture?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón