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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

Are you referring to the new thread or the old big oh thread?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The asymptotic thread!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So the big oh one.well post it then!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I would love to but there is already an unfinished problem there.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Any new limits?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

What is the limit of this sequence?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

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Hi gAr;

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

Our answers are definitely correct, we only need to prove it converges to a limit.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes! And we need to prove that for all initial conditions that occurs!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yeah, and I haven't tried proving those parts yet, and I don't know for now!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi anonimnystefy;

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Okay.

I just remembered. It will be -sqrt(3)/3 for negative initial conditions!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

They can not all be negative.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why not?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is a good question. They could all be negative.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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If the initial conditions are negative, so will be all other elements of the array.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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When the question was first posed, I did not like it. I still don't.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Did you try the recursion with some big initial conditions?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, I did not do that. Someone also mentioned that it is possible for the recurrence to oscillate for two different values.

It is important to remember that these detractors never ever produced any of these initial conditions that had these properties.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Could you try 0,1,2 for me in M?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Of course! The sequence converged to 0.5773502691896258 in 200 iterations.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Which is again sqrt(3)/3. What about 0,-1,-2?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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-0.5773502691896258

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