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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi bobbym

7. So his computing contribution is something that affects everybody's computer and in a bad way?

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bob

nice idea.any other?we need to think.reading the description of the show i noticed that they brought contestants that had very unusual jobs,so this one must have it too.so think unusual jobs.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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7) Yes!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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8. And does it collect data from that computer?

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bob

what do you have in mind?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Part of his process is the collection of data from computers but it is not the end, it is just a means.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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what do you have in mind?

I'm not trying to ask questions that might 'prove' one idea. I'm trying to stay 'general'.

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bob

can you tell me the idea?if you need,use my questions as well!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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No, you have misunderstood. No idea that fits everything yet.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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oooh,ok.i get it now.

why do you sign yourself anyway.we know your name from your username.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Recapping.

He may do some programming but he gets most of his computing 'tools' from others.

He is able to put something into every computer that sends him data.

He doesn't work for someone else, but has his own organisation.

bobbym is not sure if he makes money out of this practice.

?? surely this rules out targeted advertising, phishing, etc for we know there is money to be made there.

Bob

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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9. Is what he does illegal?

Bob

ps. Stefy. I remember a long time ago, you reminded me once, when I left my name off,

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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9) Yes!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bob

the borrowing questions from me still holds.

anyway,don't forget that he's not from America!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Thanks, Stefy. I may need them!

Now, in the UK there is legislation that makes it an crime to possess data when you have no authorisation to have it. So it's a crime just to have it, whatever you subsequently do with it.

May I ask, without cost, whether that's what you meant by YES to illegal. Or is it what is subsequently done with it that makes it illegal?

Charge me a question for all that if you like.

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bob

i think bobbym has left the building.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What he does is illegal in some countries and not in others. Some countries encourage it against their enemies. Also, many people do not feel it is wrong. Also, it is a question of degree, smaller of his type get by unnoticed all the time.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi bobbym

does he gain anything by doing what he does?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, satisfaction and rebellion, are mostly what he craves.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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10. You say he has an organisation. Does he have a lot of people working for him?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, many people. He has been hired on occasion.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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11. Once he has data from somebody's computer does he use that to damage that person.

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Generally he will use the persons machine rather than its data. But if asked he will gladly sell that machine and its data to another of his type.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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12. Sounds like he produces DOS (Denial Of Service) attacks.

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, the last thing he wants is for anyone not to be on the internet. He wants computers functioning.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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