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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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those are some very preety and neat pictures of fractals!

thanks for the link!

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi anonimnystefy,

Yes, thay are!

You're welcome.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi

i am amazed by people who do this kind of stuff.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi anonimnystefy,

Have you read "mandelbrot set"?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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nope

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Do you know anything about chaos?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Read about it, interesting!

Hi bobbym,

Chaos theory?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

I know you heard of it. It seems though that a young man I know has been just a bit tardy in his reading.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Oh, okay!

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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A plot of

and

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Those are really nice!

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Thanks!

I was playing with few examples given here http://wiki.sagemath.org/interact/fractal

The plotting matrix took almost a GiB of memory!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

That is not unusual. CAS' are very hungry. Their main diet consists of ram.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Yes, but this was a little more than usual.

I set it to 3000x3000 matrix for a better resolution. And it wasn't releasing the memory used by the old one when I was executing a new plot, I think.

Anyway, it's a nice experience to experiment fractals, they are very pleasing to look at!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes they are.

That 3000 x 3000 would require about 90 million bytes just to store the elements. The graphics now is even more.

Could be bleeding memory as you say. Lots of software does not recover memory well.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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hi guys

tottaly off topic,but i am lazy.

do you know any foreign languages,and what are your native languages.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes.

When I restarted the process, it was back to normal.

Hi anonimnystefy,

I do not know foreign languages.

I know 4 languages including english.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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that's what i ment.any language that is not your native is foreign right?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Sounds like bleeding memory, at least that is what it is called in C++.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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what???

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Is that same as "memory leak"?

Hi anonimnystefy,

Okay, I thought you meant languages spoken outside the country.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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gAr wrote:

Yes.

When I restarted the process, it was back to normal.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Sounds like bleeding memory, at least that is what it is called in C++.

Is that same as "memory leak"?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes. A class is created and after it is used the program does not reallocate the memory it used to the OS.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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