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**reconsideryouranswer****Member**- Registered: 2011-05-11
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http://www.mathsisfun.com/puzzles/24-from-8-8-3-3-solution.html

Any of them with 8^(1/3), for example, do not count, because there are 1s being used

to make these fractional exponents, but the problem is to have only two 8s

and two 3s. No other digits are to be used.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi reconsideryouranswer;

Welcome to the forum!

Some of that should have been written as:

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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I have amended the puzzle to include bobbym's formatting: 24 from 8833 Puzzle - Solution

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**janelataille****Member**- Registered: 2011-06-21
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new soln for 24 included below, plus numbers to 30 (so far)

0 3/8 3/8; 38 38; (3 3)/88; etc

1 3/3 × 8/8; 38/38; 83/83, etc

2 3/3 + 8/8

3 3!/3 + 8/8; 8 3 ∛8

4 ∛8+∛8

5 √((8-3)(8-3))

6 3 + 3 × 8/8

7 3 + 3 + 8/8; 8 3 + ∛8

8 3 × 3 8/8; √(8×8) × 3/3

9 3 × 3 × 8/8; 8 + 3 ∛8

10 3 × 3 + 8/8; (8 3) × ∛8

11 33 8 8

12 ∛(8 ×8) × 3

13 8 + 3 + ∛8

14 38 3 × 8

15 8 + 8 3/3

16 3(8 8/3)

17 8 + 8 + 3/3; 3 × 3! 8/8

18 3 × 3! × 8/8

19 3 × 3! + 8/8

20 (√(8×8) 3)!/3!

21 8(3 3/8)

22 8 + 8 + 3 + 3; 8 × 3 ∛8

23 (8 3) ×3 + 8

24 (new) (8 × 3!)/ ∛8

25 8 + 8 + 3 × 3; (8 3)(8 3); (8 + 3) × 3 8

26 33 8/8; 8 × 3 + ∛8

27 33 8 + 8

28 33 + 8/8

29 8 × 3 + 8 3

30 (√(8×8) 3 ) × 3!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi janelataille;

Welcome to the forum.

Please check your first answer for 26.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**reconsideryouranswer****Member**- Registered: 2011-05-11
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janelataille wrote:

new soln for 24 included below, plus numbers to 30 (so far)

11 33 8 8

26 33 8/8;

27 33 8 + 8

28 33 + 8/8

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi janelataille,

Nice solutions!

Re #s 11, 26, 27 & 28: I'm sure you meant "3³" instead of "33", and that will give the correct answers.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi phrontister;

Howdy!

That does not help with #26

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi phrontister,

Long time!

How are you?

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bobby,

Howdy back!

3³ - 8/8 = 27 - 1 = 26

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi gAr,

I'm very well, thanks. Been away for a long time, and have only just got back. Thought I'd better check in to see what everyone was up to.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi phrontister,

Okay.

Have a good time!

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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The next ten:

31. (8 × 8) - 33

32. 33 - (8 / 8)

33. 33 × 8 / 8

34. 33 + (8 / 8)

35. 3³ + (√8 × √8)

36. 38 ³√8

37. (3! × 3!) + (8 / 8)

38. √38 × √38

39. 3(8 + 8 - 3)

40. 38 + ³√8

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi phrontister;

You are right, I thought the game was to make 24!

Hi gAr;

A master formula! I did not know that.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

I had read about such a formula using 4 4's.

Just modified that! Took some time to rearrange it correctly.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Do you remember where you read about the 4 4's ?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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In some old puzzle book I think.

I do not remember the name of the author or title, it was some years ago.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I found something similar.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

What is it?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I found a pdf where the guy analyzed it to death.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Cool one!

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**reconsideryouranswer****Member**- Registered: 2011-05-11
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Can't the index for a root only belong to the

set of positive integers?

I am asking this, because in the digit number puzzles, I saw

(The index is shown as .4 as a portion of a solution.)Signature line:

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi reconsideryouranswer,

Though people mostly use only integers, I don't think there's anything wrong in it.

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