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#1 2013-08-04 06:57:53

EbenezerSon
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Change your subject.

Make k the subject.

1/n = (k^+p^2/hg)^1/2

I have k=(hg/n^2-p^2) as the answer. But the book solved beyond my final solution,  and even had negative or positive sign in it.

please help me understand why its had that final answer, and as well how it came by the negative or positive sign.

Thanks in advance.
This is its final answer;


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#2 2013-08-04 07:04:43

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Re: Change your subject.

Hi;

What comes after the k^?


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#3 2013-08-04 10:07:25

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Re: Change your subject.

Is this your starting point?

If not, please modify this Latex so we know what the question is.

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#4 2013-08-04 10:36:25

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Re: Change your subject.

I'd say it's:

Or maybe with k and p both in the denominator.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2013-08-04 10:40:32)


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#5 2013-08-04 18:47:34

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Re: Change your subject.

hi Stefy,

I'm sure you are right smile so here goes:

Ebenezerson:  That looks a bit like what you had.  But k is not yet the subject. We must deal with the square root:

Hope that is what you were wanting.


note: 

You must not just invert all the fractions to get

Try with numbers:

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#6 2013-08-05 00:37:04

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Re: Change your subject.

The  'k' squared plus the 'p' squared are on one platform, which is over the 'hg'.
And all of them are in a square root sign.

Thanks.


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#7 2013-08-05 00:49:27

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Re: Change your subject.

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

What comes after the k^?

"equal to sign" and after the sign, there is a "negative or positive  sign" which confound me much.


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#8 2013-08-05 01:00:35

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Re: Change your subject.

I am curious, which answer did you like?


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#9 2013-08-05 01:23:48

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Re: Change your subject.

EbenezerSon wrote:

Make k the subject.


I had, k=(hg/n^2-p^2)

But the book has 1/n and a negative or positive sign after the "equl to sign", which is incomprehensible to me. Some help.

Please  solve it and you will definitly come across what I mean.


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#10 2013-08-05 01:35:28

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Re: Change your subject.

Is post #4 the right problem?


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#11 2013-08-05 01:53:05

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Re: Change your subject.

No.
the k squared plus the p squared are on one platform, all over "hg". That's all,


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#12 2013-08-05 02:07:36

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Re: Change your subject.

Hi;

Have you considered using codecogs? Then you would be able to latex the problem.


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#13 2013-08-05 02:28:38

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Re: Change your subject.

I'd say this is the problem:


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#14 2013-08-05 02:31:58

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Re: Change your subject.

Bobbym, I cant found them at the bottom of the open window. There are few that are found there.


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#15 2013-08-05 02:34:57

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Re: Change your subject.

Is post #13 the form you want?


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#16 2013-08-05 02:59:49

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Re: Change your subject.

Yes, correcto perfecto.


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#17 2013-08-05 03:04:16

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Re: Change your subject.

Hi;

The correct answers are:


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#18 2013-08-05 03:19:53

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Re: Change your subject.

the 'n' at the bottom carries a square why didnt you bring it?


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#19 2013-08-05 03:21:21

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Re: Change your subject.

Sorry, I am not getting an n^2 just an n. I had Mathematica do that and he is never wrong.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#20 2013-08-05 03:31:54

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Re: Change your subject.

If we take it from the start. the n has to be squared when the square root at the R.H is taking away.

By the way what is mathematica I am curious to know.


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#21 2013-08-05 03:35:15

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Re: Change your subject.

But, when you clear k of the square, you will be taking a square root, which means n will lose the square.


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#22 2013-08-05 03:36:27

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Re: Change your subject.

Yes, the n^2 will disappear.

Mathematica is a computer program that is smarter than 1001 mathematicians.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#23 2013-08-05 03:39:04

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Re: Change your subject.

square both sides

times hg

subtract p squared

square root

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#24 2013-08-05 03:42:28

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Re: Change your subject.


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Sometimes I deliberately make mistakes, just to test you!  …………….Bob smile

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#25 2013-08-05 03:44:59

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Re: Change your subject.

bobbym wrote:

Mathematica is a computer program that is smarter than 1001 mathematicians.

But just those 1001.  The rest of the mathematicians are still smarter.  smile


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You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
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