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dice probabilityA and B alternately throw a die....The numbers they get on their throws are individually added......the first person to get a overall sum of 10 wins....what is the probability that A wins the game given that it is the first to start the game #2 20120523 06:20:54
Re: dice probabilityWhat happens if they go passed 10? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #3 20120523 07:23:23
Re: dice probabilityI would go with the guess that they win if they the total 10 or more. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #4 20120523 07:44:36
Re: dice probabilityI have never seen that person.
That might be the case but probability problems are hard enough without having to deal with ambiguities in the questions. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #5 20120523 07:49:55
Re: dice probabilityWell that is the only logical assumption,in my opinion. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #6 20120523 07:53:09
Re: dice probabilityYes, but it is your opinion. The probability of one of them reaching exactly 10 is also a legitimate partition question. As for me I do not wish to use an entire afternoon working on the wrong problem. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #7 20120523 07:56:02
Re: dice probabilityWell,from the wording we can see that there will always be a winner,whichisn't the case when they have to reach exactly 10. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #8 20120523 07:59:15
Re: dice probabilityWhy not? First guy to exactly 10 wins? If both pass, new game. Just saying, a good answer should be preceded by a well thought out question. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #9 20120523 08:04:31
Re: dice probabilityIt states nowhere that there can be a new game,and assuming that seems to me to be a little too farfetched. But I do agree that bad wording can lead to wasting time and getting wrong answers. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #10 20120523 08:06:12
Re: dice probabilityCould be, call the other a draw. It is also does not say anything about more than 10. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #11 20120523 08:28:05
Re: dice probabilityLook at it this way. If it was meant to say over 10 it would be a one word mistake. If it was meant to say what you said,that would be.missing.out a whole sentence. So over 10 is more likely to be the wording. And it is more intuitive. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #12 20120523 08:31:58
Re: dice probabilityI will wait for juan and a definite answer or more accurately, a definite question. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #13 20120528 07:14:44
Re: dice probabilityImust note that there will never be more than 10 throws each. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #14 20120528 07:48:41
Re: dice probabilityHi anonimnystefy; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #15 20120528 08:06:29
Re: dice probabilityMaybe we can brute force it. Find all the possibilities. Last edited by anonimnystefy (20120528 08:06:52) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #16 20120528 08:08:40
Re: dice probabilityI have run 2 simulations and know the answer. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #17 20120528 08:20:13
Re: dice probabilityWhat is it? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #18 20120528 08:22:23
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Now you are learning! Perhaps, you have stumbled onto the "Stone of Truth." And at only 15! Very impressive! In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #19 20120528 08:30:05
Re: dice probabilityStone of Truth? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #20 20120528 08:35:05
Re: dice probabilityYes, you finally asked a good question in post #17. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #21 20120528 08:40:22
Re: dice probability1)What were then my other questions? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #22 20120528 08:42:07
Re: dice probability1) Your other questions were the questions of a stuck in the mud mathematician. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #23 20120528 08:51:54
Re: dice probabilityWhat do you mean,stuck in the mud mathematician? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #24 20120528 08:54:09
Re: dice probabilityRead any Einstein or Thorough? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #25 20120528 08:56:07
Re: dice probabilityNo,why? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 