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#101 Re: Help Me ! » pre-algebra » 2007-12-07 11:40:12

Yep. Well spotted smile

I still get credit for solving for k without actually doing anything more than rearranging the equation, though, right? wink

#102 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Q20 » 2007-12-07 11:39:02

Don't go guessing "Nero" if this person "Wasn't involved with the arts" wink

#103 Re: Help Me ! » pre-algebra » 2007-12-07 04:49:59

That is a tough one for pre-algebra if you haven't learned the laws of rational exponents. Here's another way to look at it:


If you know the rules of rational exponents, then:

(³√k)² = (³√k)*(³√k)
So:
k = -2*(³√k)*(³√k)

This part you can use some reasoning for. "k" should be equal to its cube root * its cube root * its cube root, right?
So if the problem above shows that cube root k * cube root k * -2 = k, then that must mean -2 is the cube root of k.
That then means (-2)³ = k, or -2*-2*-2 = -6 = k.

EDIT: As per below, (-2)³ is, in fact, -8, not -6.

#104 Re: Help Me ! » Inequalities » 2007-12-07 04:35:44

There's four basic things you can do with inequalities without making the inequality false.
1. Add any number to both sides of the equality sign
2. Subtract any number from both sides of the equality sign
3. Multiply or Divide both sides by any positive number
4. Multiply or Divide both sides by any negative number and then change the direction of the equality sign

1)
7 - 2x ≤ 4x + 10 
Adding 2x to both sides (rule 1 above):
7 ≤ 6x + 10
Subtracting 10 from both sides (rule 2 above):
-3 ≤ 6x
Finally, dividing by 6 (rule 3):
-3/6 ≤ x
or: -0.5 ≤ x

2)
16 - x > 1
Subtract 16 from both sides:
- x > -15
Multiply both sides by -1 and change the direction of the equality sign (rule 4):
x < 15

Just remember your four rules (and the special part about changing the direction of the sign in #4) and you'll be just fine. up

#105 Re: Help Me ! » how do you » 2007-12-07 04:14:59

I believe it's related to the number of posts you've made, John.

#106 Re: Puzzles and Games » Riddles » 2007-12-07 01:23:39

I knew someone would appreciate the second one big_smile

#107 Re: Help Me ! » magic square » 2007-12-07 00:34:59

Good question. I don't know the even-square algorithm smile

Edit: I'd probably fall back on 17 simultaneous equations roflol

#108 Re: Exercises » Geometric Progression Problem » 2007-12-06 22:02:34

Edit: Oops. forgot about the Geometric Progression dizzy

Try this instead:

#109 Re: Puzzles and Games » Riddles » 2007-12-06 21:42:00

Classic one, Katie:

Two from me, the first written by JRR Tolkein, the second is a bit silly:

1.
It cannot be seen, cannot be felt
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt.
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills.
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.

2.
Used my men a thousand times
Used by the world only twice
What's it good for? Absolutely nothing.

#110 Re: Puzzles and Games » Solve the following equation » 2007-12-06 21:32:24

I admit I used a math program so solve this out of curiousity last night. I was pleasently surprised when it spit out 1.414213562... smile.

#111 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Japan talk » 2007-12-06 04:13:02

Unless you're the only person who speaks it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amurdag_language

#113 Re: Help Me ! » magic square » 2007-12-05 23:20:54

You're using every odd number, right? Here you go:

093    115    137    159    001    023    045    067    089
113    135    157    017    021    043    065    087    091
133    155    015    019    041    063    085    107    111
153    013    035    039    061    083    105    109    131
011    033    037    059    081    103    125    129    151
031    053    057    079    101    123    127    149    009
051    055    077    099    121    143    147    007    029
071    075    097    119    141    145    005    027    049
073    095    117    139    161    003    025    047    069

It all adds up to 729.

There's an algorithm I know for doing this and it worked for the odd numbers luckily.

1. The first number goes in the middle cell of the top row.
2. Place the next number 1 right and 1 up from that number (the order of this is important).
     2.a If you're at the right-most cell when you try to move right, go to the left most cell of the same row instead.
     2.b If you're at the top most cell when you try to move up, then go to the bottom of the current column instead.
3. If the destination cell is already populated, then fill in the cell 1 down from the last one you filled in instead.
4. Repeat until you've filled in the whole thing.


It should work for any magic square with odd-dimensions.

#114 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Japan talk » 2007-12-05 22:07:51

espeon wrote:

And on all the vowels there are different ways of saying them in japanese ^^ For example, E in Iie is like the 'air' in flair

Maybe there's different accents? I've only ever heard it pronounced "Ee-Ay".

#115 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Wrapping Your Christmas Presents » 2007-12-05 21:27:14

I suspect that he's thinking a christmas present must be wrapped as the attached, which is the way I wrap presents. His assumption is that those four flaps (two on the visible side and two more on the opposite side) should have a height of C as well. Which would mean the area of those triangles is 4x0.5CC = 2CC.

Now that I think about it... that wouldn't work. We already know the ideal width for the paper is A+C, meaning that the height of those flaps should be HALF of C.

So his equation should ACTUALLY be:
Area=2ab+2ac+2bc+(4)(0.5)(0.5c)c
A = 2(ab+ac+bc)+c²

#116 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Japan talk » 2007-12-05 10:21:33

The best one is: hajimemashíte, pronounced hahzyee-mem-she-tay.
It means "Nice to meet you" smile

There are some rules in Japanese about slurring the word when certain sounds are followed by 'hard' sounds. Compare to English where people commonly drop the G from words ending in -ing.

Here's something interesting. When Japanese is written using the English alphabet the 5 vowels always make the same sound, unlike in English.
A is like the A in father.
E is like the A in May.
I is like the E in feet.
O is like the O in show.
U is like the U in flute.

Expanding on espeon's post above, some of the words have multiple meanings. For instance, "shi" can mean four or death. Tsuki refers to "lunacy" so it can either mean 'to do with the moon' or a type of madness. Kitsune-tsuki is the "fox madness" that men are fabled to suffer from after meeting the seductive shapeshifting kitsunes.

Ok. I'm done geeking out now. Move along.

#117 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Wrapping Your Christmas Presents » 2007-12-05 03:35:56

That's amusing. They must have thought the "c2" was a typo and removed it smile.

I would have loved to eavesdrop on the conversation when they asked how he arrived at this magic formula and (to cover for himself) he started going into how he used advanced differential calculus to find the ideal solution for three variables.

"Gimme my commission now, kthxbai!"

#118 Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Wrapping Your Christmas Presents » 2007-12-05 03:14:16

NullRoot
Replies: 13

I briefly thought of putting this in the Jokes section, because this must be the silliest thing I've seen dubbed as 'news' for a long time.

Formula created by University of Leicester researcher
...
Bluewater, the UKs leading shopping centre, discovered that Brits continually overestimate the amount of paper they need to wrap their Christmas presents. Following this new revelation, Bluewater today reveals the mathematical solution which will hopefully put an end to unnecessary paper wastage: A1 = 2(ab+ac+bc+c²)**
...
The formula has been created by Warwick Dumas from the Department of Mathematics, University of Leicester , who has been working with Bluewater to devise the perfect method of gift-wrapping that will help customers save time and money as well as reducing the amount of paper that will be wasted.
...
(**) A = area needed/ a, b, c = Dimensions of cuboid: a = longest, c = shortest

From: http://www2.le.ac.uk/ebulletin/news/press-releases/2000-2009/2007/12/nparticle.2007-12-04.6745557516


Right. Ok. The magic equation is Area=2ab+2ac+2bc+2cc. It took a university professor to tell us that the solution to how to wrap a cuboid is to use paper that has an area equal to the surface area of what we're trying to wrap (plus enough for some flaps on the end)?
I'm not sure why he threw in the 2cc? I know he put them in there for the little triangles on the end, but they won't be covering anything that wouldn't already covered, so this "solution" isn't really "[putting] an end to unnecessary paper wastage".

Now I suppose it's fair enough. Not all people are good at Math and not all people know how to work out the surface area of a cuboid, but even knowing this equation still isn't enough. We now need to find wrapping paper that is a+c (or 2b+2c) wide to actually use this equation or we end up either overwrapping or cutting off extra paper; in both cases there is wasted paper.

So... is this equation really fit for purpose? And how much do you reckon this professor got paid for telling Bluewater the equation for the surface area of a cuboid? roflol

#119 Re: Puzzles and Games » atriangle » 2007-12-05 01:08:21

Nice one. Far more elegant than my number juggling.

Jane's got sabers and Null's got chainsaws wink

#120 Re: Help Me ! » Quantitative reasoning for my Law Aptitude test.. » 2007-12-04 21:48:09

roel wrote:

4. every choice has a corresponding point. A is worth 5 points, B is 4 points, C is 3 points, and D is 2 points. Michelle got a total of 100 points. If she had 3 more B's than A's, 5 C's more than twice the number of A's and 6 D's less than thrice the number of A's, find the number of C's she got.

A - 5
B - 4
C - 3
D - 2

Michelle's
A = ?
B = 3 + A
C = 5 + 2A
D = 3A - 6

Here's how I went about it.
The A, B, C, and D are misleading, Roel. They give you the values for these so they aren't actually variables. They're what I would call a placeholder.

This is what I interpret her score to be:
100 = wA + xB + yC + zD
From the word problem we know:
x = 3+w
y = 5+2w
z = 3w-6

Substituting, including for the values of A,B,C,D:
100 = w5 + (3+w)4 + (5+2w)3 + (3w-6)2
100 = 5w + 12 + 4w + 15 + 6w + 6w - 12
100 = 21w + 15
85 = 21w
4.0476 ≈ w

So I think there may have been an error in copying somewhere? I'd expect only whole numbers given the context of the problem.

#121 Re: Help Me ! » Range of a function » 2007-12-04 21:17:25

Daniel

That sounds right. Just think of it this way:

1/(x²-1) is pretty much the same as 1/(some numbers). Once you work out the possibilities for the 'some numbers' then you should be able to analyze what possible values 1/(x²-1) can give you.

Here 'some numbers' is defined as x²-1, where x is any Real number greater than 1. So we know it can be anything from just over zero to as big as you want and that it increases continuously throughout.

So when you try the range of values from x²-1 you see 1/(a very small number) gives you a very large number. When you try 1/(a very large number) you get a small, positive number.

#122 Re: Help Me ! » math notation in Excel » 2007-12-04 08:16:30

My guess would be that Excel keeps changing the font of what you're pasting in. Have you tried using the Character Map application to copy the symbol from the Arial font set? I think it's U+2248.

Hope that helps?

#123 Re: Help Me ! » Hi Please urgent » 2007-12-04 03:18:23

Just go ahead and post your question, Youssef. We'll be happy to help.

#124 Re: Puzzles and Games » atriangle » 2007-12-04 03:04:44

Yeah he's crazy, isn't he? smile

I thought it must be a bit of confusion in his wording and took it to mean "Prove the inequality holds if and only if ABC (having sides a,b,c) is equilateral."

We managed to prove algebraically that the inequality holds for an equilateral triangle, and that it fails for a right-angled triangle, but we haven't proved it holds if and only if the triangle is equilateral.

Help, Jane! smile

In light of the mistake pointed out by Jane, here's another reason why it doesn't hold for right-angled triangles:

However, if he actually meant prove that 4S√3 ≤ a²+b²+c² then we've proven it's true for right angle triangles and 4S√3 = a²+b²+c² if the triangle is equilateral. We can work on generalizing that next smile

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